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  • Originally posted by Numbers View Post
    Why is mint in Manchester when the only thing I find is UNH at 9th? I am on a mobile.
    I have UNH at #8, which would normally be Quinnipiac's bracket but UNH is hosting. BC is #4 so having them play in Manchester with the weakest 2-seed is sketchy at best. Quinnipiac can't play an ECAC team, which currently occupy the 15 and 16 slots, and #7 North Dakota cannot play a WCHA team, and they occupy three of the four three seeds. It will change before the night is through but right now it is a mess.

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      Originally posted by Priceless View Post
      Just looking through current pairwise is a mess. Minnesota in Manchester, BC, Yale and Lowell all going west...ugly.
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        Originally posted by Go-UML View Post
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        • Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

          CC is making things interesting.

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          • Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

            There are currently 7 teams tied for the last playoff spot.

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              Originally posted by UnionHockeyManiac View Post
              Can Union get an at large bid if they don't win a game in Atlantic City? Does Union need to win at least one game?
              let's just keep union winning (so they help make merrimack a tuc again )
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              • Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

                Priceless,

                I disagree respectfully on the bracket. I believe that first priority after hosts is #1s close to home, not bracket integrity. So, I would think BC goes to Manchester. Right now, with DU and QU still playing, I would go:
                Prov: QU (1), UND(7), NoDame (9), UW (16 tie broken by RPI?)
                Rapids: Minn (2), Lowell (6), DU (10), Union (15)
                Toledo: Miami (3), Yale (5), Niagara (12), St Cloud (13)
                Manch: BC (4), UNH (8), Mankato (11), WMU (14)

                But that is ugly. The entire process screams to be blown up with this combination. I would not want to be on the Committee at this point.

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                • Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

                  I think...

                  Clinched:
                  Quinnipiac, Minnesota, Miami, Boston College, Lowell, Yale, North Dakota

                  Close:
                  Mankato, Notre Dame

                  Bubble, still playing:
                  Niagara, St Cloud, Denver, Union, Wisconsin, Providence, Boston University

                  Eliminated from conference playoffs, but still alive:
                  Alaska, RPI, Western Michigan, New Hampshire, Denver

                  Need autobid:
                  Michigan, Ohio State, UConn, Canisius, Mercyhurst, Brown, Cornell, Colorado College

                  Eliminated from NCAA consideration, but still a TUC:
                  Dartmouth, Robert Morris, Ferris State, St Lawrence, Nebraska-Omaha, Holy Cross

                  Can still become a TUC:
                  Mercyhurst
                  Last edited by Priceless; 03-17-2013, 10:38 PM. Reason: Games went final

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                  • Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

                    Originally posted by Numbers View Post
                    Priceless,

                    I disagree respectfully on the bracket. I believe that first priority after hosts is #1s close to home, not bracket integrity. So, I would think BC goes to Manchester. Right now, with DU and QU still playing, I would go:
                    Prov: QU (1), UND(7), NoDame (9), UW (16 tie broken by RPI?)
                    Rapids: Minn (2), Lowell (6), DU (10), Union (15)
                    Toledo: Miami (3), Yale (5), Niagara (12), St Cloud (13)
                    Manch: BC (4), UNH (8), Mankato (11), WMU (14)

                    But that is ugly. The entire process screams to be blown up with this combination. I would not want to be on the Committee at this point.
                    Things have changed slightly since I posted, but I would agree the committee would end up throwing bracket integrity out the window in exchange for money attendance.

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                    • Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

                      QU just beat Cornell.

                      CC beats DU.
                      Last edited by boblav1; 03-17-2013, 10:37 PM.

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                      • Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

                        CC 85 seconds away

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                        • Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

                          Tigers just beat Denver

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                          • Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

                            First approximation: All higher seeds win all week next week. Union and RPI In. AK, Wi, Pv, BU Out. For those who are RPI fans.

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                            • Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

                              With the victory by Colorado College the cut line remains 11. As conference autobids are clinched by teams already in or on the bubble, the cut line will move towards 16. At the moment 16 is the projected cutline for the first time in NCAA history.

                              UNH, Notre Dame and Mankato appear to have joined the clinched list. I can still get Yale, St Cloud and Denver out.
                              Last edited by Priceless; 03-17-2013, 10:53 PM.

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                              • Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

                                Easy way to explain for Ak getting in: Higher seeds win every game, except BC beats ML in the HE championship. Not sure if this extends to Pv beating ML in the semis.

                                Edit: The rule for this scenario is: As long as ML loses in Boston, and BC wins the HE final. This is because otherwise BU or Pv as Champion take one spot out.

                                More work needs to be done with this to see how far this extends. My suspicion is that as long as Wi loses on Thursday and CC does not win the WCHA, this holds.
                                Last edited by Numbers; 03-17-2013, 10:52 PM.

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