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  • Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

    Is the PairWise Projector site up and running where you can input results for rest of year and get resultant pairwise standings?
    Maybe this doesn't start until all conference tourneys are set.
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    • Originally posted by yalehockeyfan View Post
      Is the PairWise Projector site up and running where you can input results for rest of year and get resultant pairwise standings?
      Maybe this doesn't start until all conference tourneys are set.
      I am on a mobile device, so not able to totally answer. Pair wise predictor only comes on championship weekend. You can look at the site posted a couple of times on the prior pages of this thread, at elynah.com it is a do it yourself thing as well, but you have to figure out how to input results.

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      • Originally posted by yalehockeyfan View Post
        Is the PairWise Projector site up and running where you can input results for rest of year and get resultant pairwise standings?
        Maybe this doesn't start until all conference tourneys are set.
        In short, the way out works is that each team had a 2-letter code. You input games.
        Date first, then road team and score, then gone team and score, and finally conference affiliation. All tournament games, even conference tournament games, are NC. WCHA games are WC, Hockey East games are HE.

        Does that help?

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        • Originally posted by Priceless View Post
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          • Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

            Originally posted by yalehockeyfan View Post
            Is the PairWise Projector site up and running where you can input results for rest of year and get resultant pairwise standings?
            Maybe this doesn't start until all conference tourneys are set.
            You can do this on CHN all year now. Just go to the "Customize" tab: http://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/ncaapwcr.php
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            • Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

              Originally posted by Federal League View Post
              You can do this on CHN all year now. Just go to the "Customize" tab: http://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/ncaapwcr.php
              Correct. However, you cannot create your own version of what happens through the playoffs. You can only put in whatever games are already listed there. That is the benefit to Whelans' site on elynah. You can simulate whatever you want for the entire playoff lineup.

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              • Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

                Originally posted by unhpuckfan2001 View Post
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                • Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

                  Sorry, I'm back home now. Closer to Durham than to Orono. Maybe I should stop by Lake Whit and say hi to Whistling Dick and the boys.

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                  • Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

                    If you want to simulate the ECAC, CCHA and AHA playoffs at the Do It Yourself page follow these instructions:

                    Choose what you want it to output (PWR, RPI, KRACH, PWR breakdown)
                    *** Specify results *** (otherwise it will just keep generating the current pairwise)
                    Paste in the following script(s)

                    20130303 Ck 0 Bn 1 nc
                    20130303 Ha 0 Da 1 nc
                    20130303 Cr 0 Pn 1 nc
                    20130303 Cg 0 SL 1 nc
                    20130303 Ck 0 Bn 1 nc
                    20130303 Ha 0 Da 1 nc
                    20130303 Cr 0 Pn 1 nc
                    20130303 Cg 0 SL 1 nc
                    20130303 Pn 0 Qn 1 nc
                    20130303 Pn 0 Qn 1 nc
                    20130303 Bn 0 RP 1 nc
                    20130303 Bn 0 RP 1 nc
                    20130303 SL 0 Ya 1 nc
                    20130303 SL 0 Ya 1 nc
                    20130303 Da 0 Un 1 nc
                    20130303 Da 0 Un 1 nc
                    20130303 Un 0 Qn 1 nc
                    20130303 Ya 0 RP 1 nc
                    20130303 Un 0 Ya 1 nc
                    20130303 RP 0 Qn 1 nc


                    20130303 BG 0 LS 1 nc
                    20130303 BG 0 LS 1 nc
                    20130303 NM 0 Mi 1 nc
                    20130303 NM 0 Mi 1 nc
                    20130303 MS 0 Ak 1 nc
                    20130303 MS 0 Ak 1 nc
                    20130303 FS 0 OS 1 nc
                    20130303 FS 0 OS 1 nc
                    20130303 LS 0 Mm 1 nc
                    20130303 LS 0 Mm 1 nc
                    20130303 Mi 0 Nt 1 nc
                    20130303 Mi 0 Nt 1 nc
                    20130303 Ak 0 WM 1 nc
                    20130303 Ak 0 WM 1 nc
                    20130303 WM 0 Nt 1 nc
                    20130303 OS 0 Mm 1 nc
                    20130303 Nt 0 Mm 1 nc


                    20130303 SH 0 RM 1 nc
                    20130303 SH 0 RM 1 nc
                    20130303 AI 0 RT 1 nc
                    20130303 AI 0 RT 1 nc
                    20130303 Ar 0 Mh 1 nc
                    20130303 Ar 0 Mh 1 nc
                    20130303 By 0 Ca 1 nc
                    20130303 By 0 Ca 1 nc
                    20130303 RM 0 Ct 1 nc
                    20130303 RM 0 Ct 1 nc
                    20130303 RT 0 Ni 1 nc
                    20130303 RT 0 Ni 1 nc
                    20130303 Mh 0 HC 1 nc
                    20130303 Mh 0 HC 1 nc
                    20130303 Ca 0 AF 1 nc
                    20130303 Ca 0 AF 1 nc
                    20130303 Ct 0 Ni 1 nc
                    20130303 HC 0 AF 1 nc
                    20130303 AF 0 Ni 1 nc

                    The dates are irrelevant.
                    This script has the higher seeded team winning each game. To simulate a visiting team winning a game, change the 0 to a 2 and remember to enter a third game for the early rounds. If you pick an upset remember to change the script accordingly based on reseeding. Playoff scripts for Hockey East and WCHA will be available after their seasons are complete. Any questions, please ask. If you notice a mistake let me know and I'll fix it. The playoff trees on USCHO.com aren't always clear because of reseeding possibilities.

                    To answer a question about Niagara: If they get to the AHA championship game and lose, it looks like they'll still make the tournament.

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                    • Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

                      Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                      The dates are irrelevant.
                      Priceless,
                      I assume that the dates are relevant if you turn on the Last 16 Games option. I did that earlier to see how RPI's position would change if that factor was still included. (RPI moved up two spots at that time.)
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                      • Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

                        Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post
                        Priceless,
                        I assume that the dates are relevant if you turn on the Last 16 Games option. I did that earlier to see how RPI's position would change if that factor was still included. (RPI moved up two spots at that time.)
                        In that case, yes.

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                        • Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

                          Thanks to the Build Your Own Rankings Calculator we now have 10 years of Pairwise data to study. In that time there have been 19 teams that qualified thanks to the autobid and 141 who qualified by being ranked high enough (autobid or not) to make the NCAA tournament.

                          Of the 141 teams, 128 (90.8%) that qualified as of the end of February would have made the eventual field. In 2004, 2006, 2009 and 2011 every team above the eventual cut line in the pairwise made the tournament. These rankings are the most accurate predictor of what the NCAA tournament field will look like. 126 of the 141 teams (89.4%) in the pairwise before conference tournaments qualify.

                          Only the 2007 Denver team (#7) was ranked in the top 11 of the pairwise and failed to make the tournament. That same year, Michigan State came from #18 to capture a bid and went on to win the national championship. That is the lowest a team has been and still earned an at-large berth. Other teams have been ranked lower (Air Force, Michigan) but they won their conference championship to earn an automatic bid.

                          Of the teams ranked 12-18 (the bubble)

                          #12: Six of the 10 teams qualified
                          #13: Seven of the 10
                          #14 Seven of the 10
                          #15 Four of the 10
                          #16 Four of the 10
                          #17 Two of the 10 (2012 Western Michigan, 2007 St Lawrence)
                          #18 Two of the 10 (2007 Michigan State, 2005 Colgate)

                          Obviously it is better to be on the inside of the bubble but hope is not lost for those on the outside looking in. This year especially, since all the autobids are ranked and the cut line is projected at 16 for the first time in tournament history.

                          Looking at the pairwise on 2/28 the 16-team field (minus autobids) should come from this list

                          1 Quinnipiac (EC) 31
                          2 Minnesota (WC) 30
                          3 Miami (CC) 29
                          4 New Hampshire (HE) 27
                          5 Boston Coll (HE) 26
                          6 North Dakota (WC) 26
                          7 MSU-Mankato (WC) 25
                          8 Niagara (AH) 23
                          9 Mass-Lowell (HE) 22
                          10 Western Mich (CC) 22
                          11 St Cloud (WC) 21
                          12 Dartmouth (EC) 18
                          13 Denver U (WC) 18
                          14 Notre Dame (CC) 16
                          15 Yale (EC) 16
                          16 RPI (EC) 16
                          17 Robert Morris (AH) 13
                          18 St Lawrence (EC) 13
                          19 AK-Fairbanks (CC) 13
                          20 Boston Univ (HE) 13

                          Statistically, if your team is ranked 11 or above, you are a lock for the tournament, but realistically they still have work to do to clinch a spot. I would not rest easy if I were a Dartmouth fan, not just because they were ranked 12 (statistically weaker than the #13 and #14 seeds) but because in five of the last 10 years Dartmouth has been ranked high enough in the January 1 pairwise (or later) and never made the field. Will this finally be the year?

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                            • Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

                              Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                              Sorry, I'm back home now. Closer to Durham than to Orono. Maybe I should stop by Lake Whit and say hi to Whistling Dick and the boys.
                              The UMO Hotel will suffice.
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                              • Re: Pairwise and Bracketology 2013 Edition

                                Considering Niagara's drop - they could easily not make the tournament without winning the autobid.
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