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TheMightyJobu
11-23-2012, 08:37 PM
My understanding is that, if half of the Big Ten teams play Division 1 hockey, they must play as a league. Penn State would have made it 6 of 12 when they upgraded to varsity. Does the recent decision to add Maryland and Rutgers deep-six this requirement for now, or did it happen too late?

mnstate0fhockey
11-23-2012, 08:57 PM
My understanding is that, if half of the Big Ten teams play Division 1 hockey, they must play as a league. Penn State would have made it 6 of 12 when they upgraded to varsity. Does the recent decision to add Maryland and Rutgers deep-six this requirement for now, or did it happen too late?

The rule is, there need to be six teams in order to have a Big Ten conference tournament. There isn't a 50% rule.

state of hockey
11-23-2012, 09:03 PM
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Fighting Sioux 23
11-23-2012, 09:08 PM
The rule is, there need to be six teams in order to have a Big Ten conference tournament. There isn't a 50% rule.

At least, that is what everyone thinks. Nobody can seem to find what the actual rule is. That being said, even if it were a 50% rule, the BTHC was formed when there was 6 of 12 programs. Not only that, but the conference begins play the year before Maryland and Rutgers come in, so the conference would be grandfathered in.

To answer TheMightyJobu's question, it either didn't matter (under the theoretical 6 team rule) or happened to late (under the theoretical 50% rule).

As for how this pertains to future B1G conferences (such as Lacrosse), nobody seems to really know, but everyone is under the assumption that the league bylaws require 6 teams. Again though, nobody seems to know what that actual bylaws say.

mnstate0fhockey
11-23-2012, 09:13 PM
At least, that is what everyone thinks. Nobody can seem to find what the actual rule is. That being said, even if it were a 50% rule, the BTHC was formed when there was 6 of 12 programs. Not only that, but the conference begins play the year before Maryland and Rutgers come in, so the conference would be grandfathered in.

To answer TheMightyJobu's question, it either didn't matter (under the theoretical 6 team rule) or happened to late (under the theoretical 50% rule).

As for how this pertains to future B1G conferences (such as Lacrosse), nobody seems to really know, but everyone is under the assumption that the league bylaws require 6 teams. Again though, nobody seems to know what that actual bylaws say.

It's been in a ton of articles from reputable sources. Both for hockey in the past and lacrosse now. Meanwhile, I have read the 50% thing in no articles. That is good enough for me.

Fighting Sioux 23
11-23-2012, 09:51 PM
It's been in a ton of articles from reputable sources. Both for hockey in the past and lacrosse now. Meanwhile, I have read the 50% thing in no articles. That is good enough for me.

Up until yesterday I didn't think a coach could ensure that a play would be not be reviewable by throwing a challenge flag on a play that is automatically reviewed. Had I read the rulebook, I would have known. ;)

mnstate0fhockey
11-23-2012, 10:06 PM
Up until yesterday I didn't think a coach could ensure that a play would be not be reviewable by throwing a challenge flag on a play that is automatically reviewed. Had I read the rulebook, I would have known. ;)

Yet, if you'd read about the rule dozens of times in articles by reputable sources, you'd have known it too. When they discussed that rule during the broadcast yesterday, I didn't need to look up the rule in the actual rule book to believe it ;)

Fighting Sioux 23
11-23-2012, 10:07 PM
Yet, if you'd read about the rule dozens of times in articles by reputable sources, you'd have known it too ;)

Can you please provide one source that includes where the rule is in the handbook?

Because the thing is, if I were to have asked 100 reputable football sources based on their perception, my guess is they would have all told me that the play would have been reviewed.

mnstate0fhockey
11-23-2012, 10:09 PM
Can you please provide one source that includes where the rule is in the handbook?

Because the thing is, if I were to have asked 100 reputable football sources based on their perception, my guess is they would have all told me that the play would have been reviewed.

I provided 2-3 in the other thread. There are plenty more out there. I suggest Google :)

Fighting Sioux 23
11-23-2012, 10:10 PM
I provided 2-3 in the other thread. There are plenty more out there. I suggest Google :)

None of the sources you provided stated where the rule was in the handbook.

mnstate0fhockey
11-23-2012, 10:12 PM
Here is an article from the Chicago Tribune:

<a href="http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-73378864/">Big Ten could soon include women's lacrosse</a>



Although Big Ten communications director Scott Chipman said in an email that any new conference sports based on Monday's announcement of Maryland joining the conference are "still TBD," the addition of Maryland and likely new member Rutgers would provide the six teams the Big Ten requires to have a conference championship in a sport.

Fighting Sioux 23
11-23-2012, 10:14 PM
Here is an article from the Chicago Tribune:

<a href="http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-73378864/">Big Ten could soon include women's lacrosse</a>

And where in the handbook is the rule? I understand that everyone is assuming that 6 teams is the rule. I want to know where in the handbook does it say that. Considering that you refuse to post a source that includes such information, I'm going to guess that you don't have one.

mnstate0fhockey
11-23-2012, 10:14 PM
None of the sources you provided stated where the rule was in the handbook.

My point is, I don't care where in the rule book it is. And using your example, I don't are where in the NFL broadcast the rule you referred to is either. If a reputable source (let alone dozens of them) tell me it's a rule, I take their word for it.

Especially considering I haven't found a single article that mentions the 50% thing. Not one.

Fighting Sioux 23
11-23-2012, 10:15 PM
My point is, I don't care where in the rule book it is. And using your example, I don't are where in the NFL broadcast the rule you referred to is either. If a reputable source (let alone dozens of them) tell me it's a rule, I take their word for it.

Especially considering I haven't found a single article that mentions the 50% thing. Not one.

Have you looked for one?

mnstate0fhockey
11-23-2012, 10:16 PM
Find me anything that says the rule is 50% of the conference.

mnstate0fhockey
11-23-2012, 10:16 PM
Have you looked for one?

For what?

Fighting Sioux 23
11-23-2012, 10:19 PM
For what?

Good lord...I'm done with this.

I'll just have to splurge and buy a B1G Handbook.

SanTropez
11-23-2012, 10:20 PM
So let me see, this is a circle jerk argument over nothing. The BTHC will play on no matter how much opposing fan bases want it to fail, too funny.

Gurtholfin
11-23-2012, 10:24 PM
So let me see, this is a circle jerk argument over nothing. The BTHC will play on no matter how much opposing fan bases want it to fail, too funny.

Yeah, I'm thinking that people aren't just gonna say "never mind."

Multiple ships have sailed. The whole fleet, actually.

Fighting Sioux 23
11-23-2012, 10:24 PM
So let me see, this is a circle jerk argument over nothing. The BTHC will play on no matter how much opposing fan bases want it to fail, too funny.

I'm not sure who you are referring to, but I was/am curious for lacrosse purposes.