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  • #16
    Re: NCAA Violation?

    Originally posted by VTinNY View Post
    OK, I'll take the bait.. What NCAA rule is being violated by the EJHL? There are plenty of junior leagues (not to mention the USNDTP) that cover all of a player's expenses or give financial aid to "deserving" players.
    From USA Hockey's Tier III Standards of Operations http://usahockey.com/uploadedFiles/U...201213_web.pdf
    No team scholarships/financial discounts shall be allowed to any individual player based upon his skill and ability or game performances, without that individual player performing meaningful, productive work in exchange therefore off the ice and away from team competition. See NCAA Division I Manual, By Law Article XII - Amateurism, Section12.1-General Regulations, Sub Section 12.1.1 - Amateur Status (a).

    We have a story that goes with this as well... http://www.juniorhockey.com/news/new...?news_id=75971

    The USHL, NAHL, NTDP, and other "free-to-play" programs have to treat every player on the team equally. The key word is equally. The EJ, or any other program, is not allowed to charge 15 players and let 10 play for free because they are elite players. It's a clear violation.
    Last edited by StephenHeisler; 09-28-2012, 02:43 PM.

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    • #17
      Re: NCAA Violation?

      This is more of a USA Hockey issue than NCAA. Even if there's some rule in the NCAA rulebook that coincides with USA Hockey, if someone thinks the NCAA is going to deal with a violation outside of the NCAA, then they don't know the organization. There's enough cheating, under-the-table deals, recruiting violations, etc... within its members that the NCAA only catches the tip of the iceberg (mostly the big programs with flashing beacons and flares on the tip of that iceberg, like UCS, Ohio State, etc...)

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      • #18
        Re: NCAA Violation?

        SH - the site does a good job with the updates and what not, would read it fairly regularly when son in juniors. But never a fan of your opinions section, not because we don't see eye-to-eye many things (we don't) but because of cases like this. You tend to bring something up,make a stir, but when pressed you can't provide any proof. This isn't the first time you've made this charge against the EJ - so take all these witnesess and file a complaint with the ncaa. Otherwise, it just comes across as you trying to pimp hits on the site.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by fangers View Post
          SH - the site does a good job with the updates and what not, would read it fairly regularly when son in juniors. But never a fan of your opinions section, not because we don't see eye-to-eye many things (we don't) but because of cases like this. You tend to bring something up,make a stir, but when pressed you can't provide any proof. This isn't the first time you've made this charge against the EJ - so take all these witnesess and file a complaint with the ncaa. Otherwise, it just comes across as you trying to pimp hits on the site.
          That's the secret of going from 20,000 hits a month to a quarter million. Truth be ****ed!
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          • #20
            Re: NCAA Violation?

            Hey, at least this dude's better than Bear Red.

            However, I have to agree that something that happens in the EJHL cannot POSSIBLY be a violation of NCAA rules because the EJHL is not a part of the NCAA. It is independent. That having been said, if that player chooses to eventually play hockey at a NCAA institution, then an investigation could be placed forth regarding that status. However, we'd also need to see the basis of the scholarship. Is it need based from income, perhaps?

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            • #21
              Re: NCAA Violation?

              Originally posted by StephenHeisler View Post
              Blog? Do you even know that definition? How about SPAM?

              JuniorHockey.com is a recognized news source that is often linked to from this site. As are many other news sources.

              If I get banned for raising a question that nobody cares to answer, so be it. It is always easier to sweep an issue under the rug than it is to clean it up.
              Amen StephenHeisler! Sing it Sista!

              Here's a guy who only cares about the players and wants to expose corruption wherever it is. There is no reason why high-end players would be playing third-tier hockey unless soemthing was happening under the table. Anyone who could make a USHL or NAHL team should jump at the chance. Either that, or stay in prep school and get an education (and play better hockey than the EJHL can offer). These rumors have been flying around fo ryears. They would have died if they were not true.
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              • #22
                Re: NCAA Violation?

                Since I'm not paying $8,000 for a son to play in the EJHL, I honestly couldn't care less if the stars of the league aren't paying.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by TimP View Post
                  Amen StephenHeisler! Sing it Sista!

                  Here's a guy who only cares about the players and wants to expose corruption wherever it is. There is no reason why high-end players would be playing third-tier hockey unless soemthing was happening under the table. Anyone who could make a USHL or NAHL team should jump at the chance. Either that, or stay in prep school and get an education (and play better hockey than the EJHL can offer). These rumors have been flying around fo ryears. They would have died if they were not true.
                  Or a kid from greater Boston wants to graduate from his local or catholic school like Fitzgerald, Higgins did so, others have too or some would rather avoid Dubuque, Sioux City and Fargo.

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                  • #24
                    Re: NCAA Violation?

                    Originally posted by BU2K View Post
                    That's the secret of going from 20,000 hits a month to a quarter million. Truth be ****ed!
                    that or kate middleton pics
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