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Osorojo
08-29-2012, 01:20 PM
Odds are that any American born hockey player for a U.S. college hockey team got his start playing AHAUS hockey in a community rink. Odds are that community rink was built with federal funds from the Outdoor Recreation Act signed by Jack Kennedy in April of 1962. If that rink is in a small town almost certainly it was built with federal funds.
Those rinks - and there are a mess of them - are approaching 50 years in age. They won't get any federal help for repair, and there is little chance of new government funded rinks. Introduction to hockey, access to ice time, and development of hockey skills is likely to decrease in small-town USA unless privatization replaces the influence of the ORA.

Nick Papagiorgio
08-29-2012, 01:40 PM
Happy Birthday?

Fighting Sioux 23
08-29-2012, 01:41 PM
Odds are that any American born hockey player for a U.S. college hockey team got his start playing AHAUS hockey in a community rink. Odds are that community rink was built with federal funds from the Outdoor Recreation Act signed by Jack Kennedy in April of 1962. If that rink is in a small town almost certainly it was built with federal funds.
Those rinks - and there are a mess of them - are approaching 50 years in age. They won't get any federal help for repair, and there is little chance of new government funded rinks. Introduction to hockey, access to ice time, and development of hockey skills is likely to decrease in small-town USA unless privatization replaces the influence of the ORA.

Interesting. Are you suggesting that Jack Kennedy is arguably the most influential American in regards to college hockey today?

JDUBBS1280
08-29-2012, 01:45 PM
Outdoor hockey in Minnesota pre-dates the Act.

Not worried in the slightest.

Dirty
08-29-2012, 01:48 PM
Interesting. Are you suggesting that Jack Kennedy is arguably the most influential American in regards to college hockey today?

He's no Juan Mariucci.

Fighting Sioux 23
08-29-2012, 01:55 PM
He's no Juan Mariucci.

Certainly not.

I do find Dubbs logic interesting. Seemingly, this act is not responsible for the growth of hockey (at least in Minnesota) because there were at least some outdoor rinks in Minnesota before the act. Certainly, there was hockey played in Minnesota before Mariacci, so by that logic, Mariacci cannot be the racist Italian mafioso (or should I use Godfather like Dubbs does?) of Minnesota hockey. We need to find out who built the very first hockey rink in Minnesota to make such a determination.

:p:D:D

JDUBBS1280
08-29-2012, 02:08 PM
Certainly not.

I do find Dubbs logic interesting. Seemingly, this act is not responsible for the growth of hockey (at least in Minnesota) because there were at least some outdoor rinks in Minnesota before the act. Certainly, there was hockey played in Minnesota before Mariacci, so by that logic, Mariacci cannot be the racist Italian mafioso (or should I use Godfather like Dubbs does?) of Minnesota hockey. We need to find out who built the very first hockey rink in Minnesota to make such a determination.

:p:D:D

Did you read that article by Let's Play Hockey I posted? Seriously, it's a great article. And being someone who claims to love hockey history so much, I thought you would.

Simple answer is, John Mariucci is considered by most to be the key influence in getting MNHS hockey to where it is today. He traveled the state lobbying schools to start programs, and recruited from within state at Minnesota while most colleges were recruiting primarily in Canada. This gave kids in Minnesota a sense that they could realistically earn a scholarship to play hockey or just play at the next level period.

Before Mariucci there were around a dozen high schools with hockey programs in Minnesota. By the time he died there were over 100.

And this is just his influences on Minnesota Hockey. The article also touches on the ways in which he fought for opportunities for American hockey players in general using his influences in a time where not many American players could even sniff NHL ice time.

There are very good reasons why he is in both Hockey Hall of Fames as a builder.

On the other hand, most of Minnesota's outdoor rinks are community built and operated. The loss of this funding would not diminish outdoor hockey in minnesota. And even without outdoor rinks, kids would still skate on the many lakes we have in this state. You know, like they did on the Range before Mariucci tirelessly worked to grow the sport in the Southern part of the state.

And LOL at you trying to attribute the label of "Godfather of MN Hockey" for Mariucci to me. He was called that before I was even born.

Keep refusing to give the man the respect he deserves to spite me. Maybe one of these days you'll realize your opinion of him means very little to me, but speaks large volumes about truely how knowledgable you really are.

JDUBBS1280
08-29-2012, 02:29 PM
Mariucci's Hockey Hall of Fame Biography...




The name John Mariucci was synonymous with the growth of amateur and professional hockey in Minnesota for over 40 years. He was a player, coach, administrator, and promoter who was a major reason why the game spread faster in the Gopher state than anywhere else in the United States.

The native of Eveleth, Minnesota was a standout in hockey and football as a boy. He later excelled in both sports at the University of Minnesota. In 1940 he was named an all-American on the varsity hockey team while helping the gridiron squad win the NCAA national championship.

.....

As admirable a player as he was, Mariucci's true calling was as a coach and nurturer of talent. He took over as coach of the University of Minnesota hockey team and immediately declined to recruit players from Canada. An important part of this emphasis on home grown talent was a challenge sent out by Mariucci to high schools throughout the state to start their own programs and develop interest in their respective communities. Between 1952 and 1980 the number of high school teams grew from a handful to more than 150.

Mariucci produced several all-Americans at the university and expanded his own horizons by getting involved with international hockey. He coached the US Olympic team to the silver medal at the 1956 Cortina games. In 1967, he returned to the NHL with the expansion Minnesota North Stars as the assistant to general manager, a position he held until his death in 1987.

A charter member of the U.S. Hockey Hall of Fame, Mariucci won the Lester Patrick award in 1977 for contributions to hockey in the United States. The University of Minnesota also paid tribute to him by renaming its ice hockey facility the Mariucci Arena.

He was inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1985.



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REDMEN2002
08-29-2012, 02:37 PM
BC > Gophers

ExileOnDaytonStreet
08-29-2012, 02:39 PM
Your mom

JDUBBS1280
08-29-2012, 02:44 PM
BC > Gophers

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At what, importing talent?

You're right!!!!!

cross cheque
08-29-2012, 02:48 PM
Certainly not.

I do find Dubbs logic interesting. Seemingly, this act is not responsible for the growth of hockey (at least in Minnesota) because there were at least some outdoor rinks in Minnesota before the act. Certainly, there was hockey played in Minnesota before Mariacci, so by that logic, Mariacci cannot be the racist Italian mafioso (or should I use Godfather like Dubbs does?) of Minnesota hockey. We need to find out who built the very first hockey rink in Minnesota to make such a determination.

:p:D:D

Hang on! I think you've caught a marlin!

Fighting Sioux 23
08-29-2012, 02:50 PM
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At what, importing talent?

You're right!!!!!

BC was the first school to win it all with an all American lineup

SanTropez
08-29-2012, 02:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG81FBa6feY

M-I-N-N-E-S-O-T-A

JDUBBS1280
08-29-2012, 02:54 PM
BC was the first school to win it all with an all American lineup

Meh.... We've done that more than a few times. Let me know when they do it with only an in-state roster ;)

cross cheque
08-29-2012, 03:11 PM
Meh.... We've done that more than a few times. Let me know when they do it with only an in-state roster ;)

"We?" What number were you again?

JDUBBS1280
08-29-2012, 04:22 PM
"We?" What number were you again?

When you can't win an argument, then just argue symantics.

Fighting Sioux 23
08-29-2012, 04:37 PM
When you can't win an argument, then just argue symantics.

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ScoobyDoo
08-29-2012, 04:55 PM
Keep refusing to give the man the respect he deserves to spite me. Maybe one of these days you'll realize your opinion of him means very little to me, but speaks large volumes about truely how knowledgable you really are.

If his opinion means so little to you than why the **** do you keep responding to it?

Seems to me you care very much about his opinion. Any sensible human being would come to the same conclusion.

JDUBBS1280
08-29-2012, 05:11 PM
If his opinion means so little to you than why the **** do you keep responding to it?

Seems to me you care very much about his opinion. Any sensible human being would come to the same conclusion.

Because it's amusing to me to see all the different ways he tries to wiggle out of giving the man the respect that he deserves. And every time he tries to do it, he exposes that he....

A). Doesn't know nearly as much about the history of hockey in this country as he thinks.

OR

B). He isn't nearly as capable of having an unbiased opinion as he is given credit for.

OR (this is my choice)

C). Both of the above.