Yale Bulldogs Hockey - 2012-2013

[LTsatch]

Re: Yale Bulldogs Hockey - 2012-2013

Nice win, back to number 10 in the pairwise. the America One feed was OK, announcers were good as well.

[Yale84]

Re: Yale Bulldogs Hockey - 2012-2013

Nice win, back to number 10 in the pairwise. the America One feed was OK, announcers were good as well.

And now we're up to 8th in the PWR...not sure whether that was because of Dartmouth's win or some other game, but good for Yale in any event. Go Blue!

[LTsatch]

Re: Yale Bulldogs Hockey - 2012-2013

Nice workmanlike 4 point weekend. I was at the Quinnipiac game and had to leave after the second period, as I walked out of the building, I figured union would sew up the game on the 3 minute 5 on 3, boy was I wrong. We just have to keep winning to get that bye week.

[goblue78]

Re: Yale Bulldogs Hockey - 2012-2013

I agree LT. The ECAC playoff structure is interesting in that there is very little advantage of having a better record once you are in the top 4, particularly in a pretty well balanced league. As much as I'd like to catch QPac (and they certainly aren't completely out of range) solid play will put us where we need to be. The particularly critical games for PWR purposes are the remaining games with QPac, Dartmouth, Union, Comell and Colgate (8 total games). Yale's record in those games are critical to getting a good TUC rating. (We need Colorado College and UMass to to get back in the TUC as well, and to keep Holy Cross out, but those are all out of our hands.)

[Let's Go BLUE!!!]

I agree LT. The ECAC playoff structure is interesting in that there is very little advantage of having a better record once you are in the top 4, particularly in a pretty well balanced league. As much as I'd like to catch QPac (and they certainly aren't completely out of range) solid play will put us where we need to be. The particularly critical games for PWR purposes are the remaining games with QPac, Dartmouth, Union, Comell and Colgate (8 total games). Yale's record in those games are critical to getting a good TUC rating. (We need Colorado CollUMass to to get back in the TUC as well, and to keep Holy Cross out, but those are
all out of our hands.)

It's simple math, ecac will only get 2 invites to tournament. Currently, Qpac is in. In my opinion, the only way yale gets in is if they win ecac championship. The lost to holy cross and rpi really hurt.

[Yale84]

Re: Yale Bulldogs Hockey - 2012-2013

It's simple math, ecac will only get 2 invites to tournament. Currently, Qpac is in. In my opinion, the only way yale gets in is if they win ecac championship. The lost to holy cross and rpi really hurt.

My understanding is you can get into the NCAAs 2 ways: winning the ECAC tournament, and being in the top of the PWR. If all tournament winners are in the top 16 of the PWR, then all 16 go, ranked in that order. If you win a conference tourney but aren't in the top 16, then you knock out a team that is at the bottom of the PWR top 16. uscho.com will soon begin a weekly column called "Bracketology" that is very helpful in understanding who's in and who's out at any given moment.

[Yale84]

Re: Yale Bulldogs Hockey - 2012-2013

It's simple math, ecac will only get 2 invites to tournament. Currently, Qpac is in. In my opinion, the only way yale gets in is if they win ecac championship. The lost to holy cross and rpi really hurt.

For a detailed explanation of how the NCAA tourney spots are filled, check out collegehockeynews.com, then go to PWR then look for the link called "Primer" - and this link may get you there (no promises) http://www.collegehockeynews.com/info/?d=pwcrpi

[goblue78]

Re: Yale Bulldogs Hockey - 2012-2013

It's simple math, ecac will only get 2 invites to tournament. Currently, Qpac is in. In my opinion, the only way yale gets in is if they win ecac championship. The lost to holy cross and rpi really hurt.

Where have you been? if the season ended today (and I always loved that phrase... it's as if it meant something) there'd be 4 ECAC teams in: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwi...kings/d-i-men/ There is a limited amount of discretion in exactly how the tournament is structured, but there hasn't been any discretion on which teams got in in years. So, at the moment, QPac, Yale, Dartmouth and Colgate are all in. (Actually, Colgate is probably barely out -- but the season isn't ending today.) But there's a long way to go in the next three months.

[Let's Go BLUE!!!]

Where have you been? if the season ended today (and I always loved that phrase... it's as if it meant something) there'd be 4 ECAC teams in: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwi...kings/d-i-men/ There is a limited amount of discretion in exactly how the tournament is structured, but there hasn't been any discretion on which teams got in in years. So, at the moment, QPac, Yale, Dartmouth and Colgate are all in. (Actually, Colgate is probably barely out -- but the season isn't ending today.) But there's a long way to go in the next three
months.

Where have I been?

It's a pipe dream that there would be more than two ecac teams invited to the tournament.

When was the last time there were more Han 2 ecac teams in the tournament? How many times has that happened?

[Let's Go BLUE!!!]

For a detailed explanation of how the NCAA tourney spots are filled, check out collegehockeynews.com, then go to PWR then look for the link called "Primer" - and this link may get you there (no promises) http://www.collegehockeynews.com/info/?d=pwcrpi

I don't care what the primer says, ecac historically has been overlooked. No more than 2 will get in. If 3 make it, consider it a gift. But won't happen.

[goblue78]

Re: Yale Bulldogs Hockey - 2012-2013

I don't care what the primer says, ecac historically has been overlooked. No more than 2 will get in. If 3 make it, consider it a gift. But won't happen.

Since the PWR formula (which has no judgment in it) has exactly predicted the field for over a decade, you have exactly no evidence of this "overlooked." None. Zero. And the last time three teams got in was all of two years ago. (Yale, Union, RPI) http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2011/3/2...11-frozen-four Ancient history.

[Let's Go BLUE!!!]

Since the PWR formula (which has no judgment in it) has exactly predicted the field for over a decade, you have exactly no evidence of this "overlooked." None. Zero. And the last time three teams got in was all of two years ago. Ancient history.

And the time before that?

[goblue78]

Re: Yale Bulldogs Hockey - 2012-2013

What part of "It's a formula which has no judgment" is beyond your reading comprehension? If three qualify under PWR, 3 get in. If 7 qualify, 7 get in.

[LTsatch]

Re: Yale Bulldogs Hockey - 2012-2013

It's a pipe dream that there would be more than two ecac teams invited to the tournament.

The teams are not invited, they earn their berths by two methods, there is a definitive mathematical system in place called the pairwise, that along with conference tournament title winners.

Your predicted end result this year may be in fact valid because the good ECAC teams are going to beat each other up coming down the stretch, you can already see it happening to Union and Dartmouth. But the selection committee really has no choice about who gets in.

[burgie12]

Re: Yale Bulldogs Hockey - 2012-2013

And the time before that?

2009 (Yale, Princeton, and Cornell) and 2005 (Harvard, Colgate, and Cornell).

It is a purely mathematical formula. Not a lot of ECAC teams get in because the ECAC does poorly in non-conference play. This year, the ECAC started out exceptionally; therefore, there is certainly the possibility of three and if the AHA stays limited to one, the top three ECAC teams break away, and there is an upset in the conference tournament, the outside chance of four.