Do you think the NHL's newly proposed CBA could have an impact upon college hockey?
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Yes, because with that proposal, there will not be a NHL season this winter.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXX
The reason for the talent in the west? Because MN didn't rely on Canada.
Originally posted by MN Pond HockeyMenards could have sold a lot of rope
this morning in Grand Forks if North Dakota had trees.
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Originally posted by jnacc View PostAre you referring to the 5 year entry contracts??
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It doesn't dare them to go on strike. This happens all the time. One side starts off negotiations with an obvious low-ball starting offer. The players will come back with a just as ridiculous counter offer and we go from there...
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Originally posted by J.D. View PostIt doesn't dare them to go on strike. This happens all the time. One side starts off negotiations with an obvious low-ball starting offer. The players will come back with a just as ridiculous counter offer and we go from there...
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Who is they? Nobody associated with this wants to lose a season. That doesn't mean both sides won't try their best to get a sweetheart deal. The biggest problem with all of this is the addition of Donald Fehr, unfortunately.
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Originally posted by J.D. View PostWho is they? Nobody associated with this wants to lose a season. That doesn't mean both sides won't try their best to get a sweetheart deal. The biggest problem with all of this is the addition of Donald Fehr, unfortunately.
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It wasn't even a decade ago that they had a full-year locked out. And they're threatening not playing again, when they've finally started getting people back.
Idiots.Monty
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Originally posted by UMLFan View PostIt wasn't even a decade ago that they had a full-year locked out. And they're threatening not playing again, when they've finally started getting people back.
Idiots.
wow
i believe that whatever those idiots did, they are making more money than they did 10 years ago, crap economy notwithstanding....
was it just dumb luck?
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Originally posted by J.D. View PostWho is they? Nobody associated with this wants to lose a season. That doesn't mean both sides won't try their best to get a sweetheart deal. The biggest problem with all of this is the addition of Donald Fehr, unfortunately.
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Originally posted by J.D. View PostWho is they? Nobody associated with this wants to lose a season. That doesn't mean both sides won't try their best to get a sweetheart deal. The biggest problem with all of this is the addition of Donald Fehr, unfortunately.
Gary Bettman is the absolute worst. The owners are almost as bad. Leading up to free-agency, the owner of the Minnesota Wild said this:
"We're not making money, and that's one reason we need to fix our system. We need to fix how much we're spending right now. [The Wild's] revenues are fine. We're down a little bit in attendance, but we're up in sponsorships, we're up in TV revenue. And so the revenue that we're generating is not the issue as much as our expenses. And [the Wild's] biggest expense by far is player salaries"
He then signed two players to almost $200 million worth of deals....
Regardless of whether you think the ludicrous offer made by the owners is gamesmanship, or just an average negotiating technique, it's hard to imagine it being a good starting point. This is especially true because the last go-round resulted in the players taking a cut from revenues, and the 11% cut proposed in the current proposal is completely contradictory to everything Bettman has said about the last CBA being successful. In fact, revenues have risen around 7% annually during that period.
My question is, why is Bettman looking to completely overhaul the system considering how well it has worked? Why not just change some small things like how contracts are scored (eliminating bonuses as an option for payment so the cap is a real cap) and a couple other small things? It seems like pure greediness IMO.
Rant over. However, I did put together a blog piece about this if anyone cares to read any further.
http://citizenweber.wordpress.com/20...-youre-stupid/Wildcat Hockey!
B.S. NMU 11'
M.B.A. Marquette University 13'
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Originally posted by Wildpantswilly View PostYou're joking right?
Gary Bettman is the absolute worst. The owners are almost as bad. Leading up to free-agency, the owner of the Minnesota Wild said this:
"We're not making money, and that's one reason we need to fix our system. We need to fix how much we're spending right now. [The Wild's] revenues are fine. We're down a little bit in attendance, but we're up in sponsorships, we're up in TV revenue. And so the revenue that we're generating is not the issue as much as our expenses. And [the Wild's] biggest expense by far is player salaries"
He then signed two players to almost $200 million worth of deals....
Regardless of whether you think the ludicrous offer made by the owners is gamesmanship, or just an average negotiating technique, it's hard to imagine it being a good starting point. This is especially true because the last go-round resulted in the players taking a cut from revenues, and the 11% cut proposed in the current proposal is completely contradictory to everything Bettman has said about the last CBA being successful. In fact, revenues have risen around 7% annually during that period.
My question is, why is Bettman looking to completely overhaul the system considering how well it has worked? Why not just change some small things like how contracts are scored (eliminating bonuses as an option for payment so the cap is a real cap) and a couple other small things? It seems like pure greediness IMO.
As a fan, I like where the game is considering where it was and see opportunities to keep growing. Are there things I would change? Absolutely. I'm not an owner nor am I defending them. But what we've seen so far is par for the course in all CBA negotiations. Both sides are equally greedy, especially when you now have someone like Donald Fehr in charge of the players. I really didn't say a whole lot in my original post to warrant this "rant".
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The Minnesota Wild may be losing money and Arizona certainly is, but Los Angeles isn't, and wait until next year. Other NHL franchises in major metropolitan areas are reaping a tidy profit. The issue is whether the "Professional" in Professional Hockey means money rules, period. [Some call this "capitalism".] In simple terms, the highest bidder gets the player. Without salary caps and other regulations the NHL will quickly evolve into a Harlem Globetrotters vs. Washington Generals spectacle; a "haves" versus the "have nots." Does this sound familiar? Precisely the same issues influence college hockey, compounded by those pesky demands for education.
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