Any chance the Penn State scandal has an impact on hockey?

[Ma#1ne Hky]

Re: Any chance the Penn State scandal has an impact on hockey?

I expect nothing less from someone who's probably also a Bruins fan to get the name of the owner of the Sabres wrong... Pegula.

Like I said sorry and no way a B's fan....Montreal.

[Patronick]

Re: Any chance the Penn State scandal has an impact on hockey?

The sanctions that are coming (severe, but unfortunately the NCAA doesn't have the stones to apply the death penalty for two years like they should, spineless worms that they are) but if you're a hockey recruit, why on earth would you want to play there now? That athletic department and that administration obviously lack control (not to mention a sense of morality and decency) as evidence by the Freeh report. How many "pros" can you list that outweigh the negatives?

[J.D.]

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I certainly think so--and at least for the foreseeable future. Not sure why the best recruits would want to go to PSU right now nor do I think their parents would want them going there either.

[J.D.]

Re: Any chance the Penn State scandal has an impact on hockey?

The bigger question here is what does spelling the Sabres' owner's last name wrong have to do with being a Bruins fan?

[fangers]

Re: Any chance the Penn State scandal has an impact on hockey?

How many "pros" can you list that outweigh the negatives?

Depends on how many options a recruit has - there are only so many DI spots. So the overal quality of their recruits may drop a bit, but I don't think it will result in no one wanting to take their scholarship $$$

[Patronick]

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What shocks me is that there are people who honestly believe this won't effect every program at that school. Seriously? An institutional cover up of years of systematic rape and abuse of children isn't going to effect potential recruiting? In what universe does that make sense?

[J.D.]

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fangers, that alone is enough to answer this question with a "yes"

and ultimately, i think what you said is what's gonna happen over the next few years

[Jeff]

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What shocks me is that there are people who honestly believe this won't effect every program at that school. Seriously? An institutional cover up of years of systematic rape and abuse of children isn't going to effect potential recruiting? In what universe does that make sense?

Happy Valley

[mnstate0fhockey]

Depends on how many options a recruit has - there are only so many DI spots. So the overal quality of their recruits may drop a bit, but I don't think it will result in no one wanting to take their scholarship $$$

This.

[fangers]

Re: Any chance the Penn State scandal has an impact on hockey?

What shocks me is that there are people who honestly believe this won't effect every program at that school. Seriously? An institutional cover up of years of systematic rape and abuse of children isn't going to effect potential recruiting? In what universe does that make sense?

Don't think I ever said it wouldn't impact them all to varying degree. And don't take it that I don't find the whole thing totally disgusting. But the relative scaricity of DI hockey spots will be something that does factor in like I said.

[JohnsonsJerseys]

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What shocks me is that there are people who honestly believe this won't effect every program at that school. Seriously? An institutional cover up of years of systematic rape and abuse of children isn't going to effect potential recruiting? In what universe does that make sense?

Another interesting angle that was discussed today on the radio was "What NCAA rules have been broken in this scandal?" Honestly this is a criminal matter and as much as the NCAA might want to jump down their throats, they may find it tough to find things related to NCAA rules that were violated by PSU. The only obvious one that was mentioned was "lack of institutional control." Sure the NCAA could issue a statement about how displeased they were with PSU, but in terms of black and white the crimes that were supposed to have taken place are not NCAA violations and therefore the NCAA may have its hands tied about handing out penalties.

Now granted, if that turns out to be the case and the university doesn't police themselves with some kind of self imposed sanctions, the public outcry and backlash would be even more brutal than it is now.

For the record, my original post never mentioned that other conference and I could care less about the Big Ten.

Ryan J

[Patronick]

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In addition to "Lack of Institutional Control", we have (from SI.com) :

"Articles 2.4 and 10.1 of the NCAA constitution command ethical conduct on behalf of coaches and others associated with athletic programs, and 2.4 expansively states, "These values should be manifest not only in athletics participation, but also in the broad spectrum of activities affecting the athletics program."

[Patman]

What shocks me is that there are people who honestly believe this won't effect every program at that school. Seriously? An institutional cover up of years of systematic rape and abuse of children isn't going to effect potential recruiting? In what universe does that make sense?

When penn state stops having some of the best academics in the nation and a massive alumni network, especially in the dc metro, then I'll start listening.

Yeah, they took a massive blind eye here but it is also not going to be the end of the world. I hardly think this is the beginning of the end of penn state as an institution but it will surely reform itself. Now, that churning could lead to some questions and drama but penn state is going nowhere.

[joecct]

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What if they strip the football team of scholarships for a 4 year period?

[Patronick]

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When penn state stops having some of the best academics in the nation and a massive alumni network, especially in the dc metro, then I'll start listening.

Yeah, they took a massive blind eye here but it is also not going to be the end of the world. I hardly think this is the beginning of the end of penn state as an institution but it will surely reform itself. Now, that churning could lead to some questions and drama but penn state is going nowhere.

Ya know, you're right. Having some of "the best academics in the nation" totally gives them a pass on the institution-wide, top down cover up of a decade of child rape. What was I thinking? No big deal, right Patman? They'll smooth this over and it'll be business as usual in Happy Valley. There's absolutely NO WAY this could have an effect on alumni donations, sports recruiting, revenue (the football program brings in a reported 50 million a year), attracting faculty or anything else. How silly of me.