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mnstate0fhockey
05-18-2012, 01:33 PM
“@LetsPlay_Hockey: Iowa State University is still pursuing a Division I men’s hockey varsity program. The logical league for them to join would be the WCHA.”

JF_Gophers
05-18-2012, 01:34 PM
“@LetsPlay_Hockey: Iowa State University is still pursuing a Division I men’s hockey varsity program. The logical league for them to join would be the WCHA.”Logic has nothing to do with how leagues are formed or who their members are. Look at the NaCHo.

FlagDUDE08
05-18-2012, 01:52 PM
Not this again...

Although with the USHL's connections with college, I can't say I'm surprised.

Bale
05-18-2012, 01:52 PM
Personally, I think the logical place for them to end up is the NaCHo. I would love for them to come to the WCHA, but they fit with the "like-mindedness" of NCHC better. They don't have the history, but they are a big D1 school and will likely throw a big chunk of money at the program if they start it.

Jim
05-18-2012, 02:46 PM
Maybe, but I've been hearing this as long as I've been hearing Navy is pursuing D1 hockey...though I suppose that Penn State finally took the step, which I first heard about back in the 70s, so I guess anyhting is possible...

FlagDUDE08
05-18-2012, 03:16 PM
Maybe, but I've been hearing this as long as I've been hearing Navy is pursuing D1 hockey...though I suppose that Penn State finally took the step, which I first heard about back in the 70s, so I guess anyhting is possible...

What Iowa State alum is going to throw down 88 mil?

davyd83
05-18-2012, 03:19 PM
“@LetsPlay_Hockey: Iowa State University is still pursuing a Division I men’s hockey varsity program. The logical league for them to join would be the WCHA.”

So is that a quote from a reliable source, or just random speculation by a wannabe?

CHFAN222
05-18-2012, 03:20 PM
Can we get something besides a random Twitter post on this?

Patman
05-18-2012, 03:23 PM
What Iowa State alum is going to throw down 88 mil?

Who says it needs to be that much? Tsongas didn't come anywhere close... Don't know about Agganis.

I think you can get something more than suitable for a lesser figure... Granted you are still talking serious money... Might be why they would target WCHA for the time being

sbkbghockey
05-18-2012, 03:23 PM
Looks like just a slow Tweet day so time to post a longstanding rumor. Iowa State has been "pursuing NCAA Division I hockey" at least since Al Murdoch became coach of the Cyclones 20+ years ago. Penn State, Iowa State and Navy have been longtime rumors, between ISU or Navy I'd say both might be in the NCAA within 15-20 years but Navy is much closer with a suitable arena and a conference (Atlantic Hockey) that would gladly accept the team and would benefit greatly from an Army-Navy Cold War game. ISU has previously denied the rumors and would need big upgrade in facilities, scholarship endowments for men's hockey and a women's sports team to meet title IX, etc... all equaling a big investment/donation (like Penn State).

Jim
05-18-2012, 03:55 PM
I first heard that Penn State would be adding a D1 hockey back in the 60s, I think...maybe early 70s. A neighbor of ours who played for the local high school team was going to Penn State and told my father that he chose Penn state because they would be starting a D1 program the following year...that was roughly 1970...he'd be roughly 60 now and probalby ineligible...

mnstate0fhockey
05-18-2012, 06:20 PM
So is that a quote from a reliable source, or just random speculation by a wannabe?

Yes, Let's Play Hockey newspaper is a reliable source. They are the longest-running hockey publication in the United States (40 years).

mnstate0fhockey
05-18-2012, 06:21 PM
Can we get something besides a random Twitter post on this?

Sorry, that's all I've seen so far. Chris Peters at USoH seems to be fairly in the know as he is an alum. He says they need a new rink for it to happen, but it isn't surprising they are considering it. Here are some pieces he wrote in the past on this subject.

“@chrismpeters: Wrote about Iowa State's potential as a D1 hockey school way back in 2006: <a href="http://t.co/HMpd1lmF">http://t.co/HMpd1lmF</a> and <a href="http://t.co/HypkcFcy">http://t.co/HypkcFcy</a>”

ExileOnDaytonStreet
05-18-2012, 07:41 PM
Who says it needs to be that much? Tsongas didn't come anywhere close... Don't know about Agganis.
Also, they can save money by using cornstalks to help build the structure.

kingdobbs
05-18-2012, 07:57 PM
Also "pursuing" can mean anything from "We have a plan in place to have a varsity hockey team in the next five years" to "We talked about it in an off-hand conversation that started when someone misheard us talking about iced coffee".

Patman
05-19-2012, 12:37 AM
Also, they can save money by using cornstalks to help build the structure.

They can power the zamboni with biofuels ;)

Scally Lama
05-19-2012, 01:16 AM
Wasn't that the same account that tweeted that Jimmy John was on the verge of hooking Illinois up? How's that going?

Edit: Obviously, I'd love it if Iowa State, Illinois, Navy and everyone else who wants an NCAA program gets one. It's just that, as Jim noted, my particular school of choice was the subject of rumors for literally decades. In fact, PSU did conduct feasibility studies on hockey several times, each of which led to upticks in the usual rumor noise and did constitute "pursuing" DI hockey, but didn't really constitute a valid reason to think anything was imminent. I'm naturally skeptical of rumors like this for obvious reasons, but hey, it only has to be true once.

As for the money, you probably don't need $102 million. We're trying to raise $23 million for endowment (which is probably required for anyone to at least some extent in this belt-tightening era) beyond the $89 million for an arena, so $112 million total. Moorhead only thought they needed $30 million. Call it somewhere around $50-60 million to get an arena plus at least make a decent dent in your scholarship expenses. There still aren't a ton of people out there who can cover that.

mnstate0fhockey
05-19-2012, 05:53 AM
Wasn't that the same account that tweeted that Jimmy John was on the verge of hooking Illinois up? How's that going?

Edit: Obviously, I'd love it if Iowa State, Illinois, Navy and everyone else who wants an NCAA program gets one. It's just that, as Jim noted, my particular school of choice was the subject of rumors for literally decades. In fact, PSU did conduct feasibility studies on hockey several times, each of which led to upticks in the usual rumor noise and did constitute "pursuing" DI hockey, but didn't really constitute a valid reason to think anything was imminent. I'm naturally skeptical of rumors like this for obvious reasons, but hey, it only has to be true once.

As for the money, you probably don't need $102 million. We're trying to raise $23 million for endowment (which is probably required for anyone to at least some extent in this belt-tightening era) beyond the $89 million for an arena, so $112 million total. Moorhead only thought they needed $30 million. Call it somewhere around $50-60 million to get an arena plus at least make a decent dent in your scholarship expenses. There still aren't a ton of people out there who can cover that.

I don't think they ever said Jimmy Johns was on the "verge" of donating to Illinois. I believe the Tweet was something to the effect of, "Jimmy John's founder Jimmy John Liautaud is considering funding the school's transition from club hockey to D1".

dggoddard
05-19-2012, 08:11 AM
This rumor might have some legs. Heard another Big 12 school is looking into it as well. Hard to imagine one would make the leap without the other.

And yes they would play in the NCHC

Biddco
05-19-2012, 08:52 AM
This rumor might have some legs. Heard another Big 12 school is looking into it as well. Hard to imagine one would make the leap without the other.

And yes they would play in the NCHC

You're welcome college hockey :D