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Biddco
05-06-2012, 01:03 PM
Sounds like it will become the rule around college hockey:

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2012/05/04_full_shields_closer_than_ever.php

I wonder if this is fueled more by safety concerns or a "keeping up with the Jones' move" (ie the CHL and other leagues)

Thoughts? Discuss.

FlagDUDE08
05-06-2012, 01:06 PM
I had a thought... why can't the original poster spell "shields" correctly?

The Rube
05-06-2012, 01:20 PM
I had a thought... why can't the original poster spell "shields" correctly?

Because he's a teacher.

/True Story.

Biddco
05-06-2012, 02:00 PM
I had a thought... why can't the original poster spell "shields" correctly?<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/W23LKD9Z1hw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>.

SCSU Euro
05-06-2012, 02:35 PM
I think only players built like Dan Kronick should be allowed 3/4 visors... Although the costs of the number of pucks that would shattered when contacting his chin would have been huge

REDaero91
05-06-2012, 02:44 PM
If college hockey does move to the 3/4 shields, could a player still wear a cage if he wanted to?

Flashy Man
05-06-2012, 03:14 PM
My question is that does this cause vendors to make a new product because all I've seen is 1/2 shields.

solovsfett
05-06-2012, 03:25 PM
I've never been a fan of the "warrior" mentality that Melrose and some others sell re: hockey players in jr...

so my question is this: 3/4 (at least) of these guys will never play in the NHL. what about the guy that's good at the NCAA level but knows his time post-NCAA will be at a lawfirm or some other job...do he want to use a 1/2 shield and get some chicklets knocked out to prove he's a warrior or will the players not put pressure on each other to wear these things?

redwing61
05-06-2012, 03:45 PM
My question is that does this cause vendors to make a new product because all I've seen is 1/2 shields.

It seems a half shield and a three-quarter shield is the same thing, oddly enough.

MavsFan
05-06-2012, 04:41 PM
If college hockey does move to the 3/4 shields, could a player still wear a cage if he wanted to?From what I read, no. Everyone would wear the same shield. They seem to think that the full shield makes them more reckless because of a false sense of safety.

Biddco
05-06-2012, 05:19 PM
My question is that does this cause vendors to make a new product because all I've seen is 1/2 shields.

I thought I've seen them in CHL games. I bet you could wear a full cage if you wanted. I think it is a good idea to change, they are one of the last leagues to not have shields and why not get on the times?

Dirty
05-06-2012, 05:21 PM
It would make absolutely no sense if you did not still allow full shields/masks and required players to wear half-shields. Players in the NHL routinely wear full shields/masks when they sustain a facial injury while they recover from it, so I would have to assume the same thing would be true if and when this rule is passed.

aparch
05-06-2012, 05:35 PM
From what I read, no. Everyone would wear the same shield. They seem to think that the full shield makes them more reckless because of a false sense of safety.

I would assume that it would be like the AHL where to prevent further facial injuries a cage/full shield can be worn for a few games.

Or, they'll be able to attach that stupid jaw guard that leaves a puck sized gap between it and the visor.

KnightsOfTheRound
05-06-2012, 05:47 PM
Is there data that suggests full face shields lead to more concussions and/or spinal injuries? For those who suggest that they do, what is the mechanism that causes the increase in these injuries? Is it simply increased recklessness on the part of the players, or does it have to do with a full face shield dispersing the energy from a hit to the head differently than a half shield? I have never heard it alleged that a full face shield is more dangerous so I am curious what the reason is for a half shield being safer than a full shield.

I think the NCAA should do whatever is safest for the student athletes, regardless of what the other leagues do. If it means losing some recruits to other leagues, so be it.

giwan
05-06-2012, 06:43 PM
From what I read, no. Everyone would wear the same shield. They seem to think that the full shield makes them more reckless because of a false sense of safety.

If that is true the no face shield would make players the least reckless.

REDaero91
05-06-2012, 07:41 PM
It sounds to me like the plan (if put into place) is to move everyone to 3/4 shields and have players (probably) be able to opt into a full shield/cage if they want. I wonder if they're considering introducing it as a choice: simply making 3/4 shields available, not standard. Kind of like neck guards now. I realize the safety issues with the different equipment/lack thereof are different, but it seems to me players would be more likely to stick with the full shield if it was simply presented as a choice between the two instead of being out of the norm. I know RPI's coach is in favor of the players being able to make the choice with neck guards and the like; I wonder what his stance on this was.

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burd
05-06-2012, 08:16 PM
Face shields. Sigh. This game really took a turn for the worse when goalies started wearing masks. Heck, most Sioux players can remember when they didn't have to wear helmets.

MavsFan
05-06-2012, 08:46 PM
It sounds to me like the plan (if put into place) is to move everyone to 3/4 shields and have players (probably) be able to opt into a full shield/cage if they want.Do you guys read the linked article?
If the full shields mandate is eliminated, McLaughlin said there is a belief that everyone must go to three-quarter visors instead. If it's optional to still use full shields, then it defeats the purpose of reining in reckless behavior.

JohnsonsJerseys
05-06-2012, 08:48 PM
I love this quote:
"Kelly, a practicing attorney, believes the NCAA has the liability issue backwards. I told the committee that, since every other organized league in the world has gone to half visors for players over 18," Kelly said, "if you're the only league that refuses to, and then you have a guy who crashes into the boards and suffers catastrophic injury, you can bet 100 to 1 you will have a lawsuit brought against the NCAA and maybe the conference for failure to take actions when your own coaching body and medical community is telling you it will make the game safer (without them)."

Yeah, don't sue the player who can't follow the rules and checked someone from behind (he won't have any money) go after the leauge or the conference. Typical lawyer. And I guess if all the other leagues have their players jumping off bridges to show how tough they are, the NCAA should do the same thing. This issue is a joke and if the NCAA doesn't give the player the right to choose (I could at least agree with player CHOICE), the first time a player has their teeth on the ice the headlines will read "NCAA Not Protecting its Student-Athletes..."

What other NCAA sports have made moves to DECREASE player protection? Baseball players told not to wear cups? Football players told not to wear facemasks? What you wear on your head has NOTHING to do with your chance of getting injured along the boards. It has EVERYTHING to do with the idiots who don't follow the rules. And I totally agree with the other posters who states if facial protection is the reason people play dirty, then lose them all together and see how that works out for the players.

Ryan J

joecct
05-06-2012, 09:05 PM
It seems a half shield and a three-quarter shield is the same thing, oddly enough.This, I think, is a 3/4 shield...
http://www.legendsofhockey.net/LegendsOfHockey/gallery/000153/000305934.jpg

The nose is entirely covered. I think 1/2 shields cover only part of the nose.