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JohnsonsJerseys
04-18-2012, 11:39 AM
For those of you who still think fans won’t show up unless you are playing a “premium name” team I present excerpts from a North Dakota press release issued today:

“UND's average home attendance of 11,341 fans per game ranked second nationally behind only Wisconsin's 11,772.9.”

“The Sioux played in front of two of the five largest crowds in program history when 12,065 turned out to watch a 1-1 overtime tie with Michigan Tech on Feb. 18, and 12,029 witnessed a 3-0 win over Minnesota State in the regular season finale on March 3. Those two crowds ranked as the fourth and fifth-largest in program history.”

Hmmm... Seems like there isn't any problem at all playing "no-name" programs according to those numbers. If the fans don't show up in your building, maybe they just don't care about the HOME team?

Ryan J

crossjcek
04-18-2012, 12:22 PM
nice. large. sample.
great indepth reporting.
How about using a team that doesn't rank 2nd in attendence.
One of those games was the final home game. I bet you would find all final home games for the und are well attended.
And yes maybe the large amount of a population want to see a top flight opponent when their team isn't doing that well. MSU season tickets dropped this summer when the schedule came out and there was no UM on it. Conference reallignment probably played a role as well. Two games attendence gleened from one teams schedule one year does not debunk anything.

aparch
04-18-2012, 12:26 PM
Conference reallignment probably played a role as well.

Huh. I didn't realize that changes to the 2013-14 schedule affected the ticket sales for the 2011-12 season. :confused:

Biddco
04-18-2012, 12:47 PM
For those of you who still think fans won’t show up unless you are playing a “premium name” team I present excerpts from a North Dakota press release issued today:

“UND's average home attendance of 11,341 fans per game ranked second nationally behind only Wisconsin's 11,772.9.”

“The Sioux played in front of two of the five largest crowds in program history when 12,065 turned out to watch a 1-1 overtime tie with Michigan Tech on Feb. 18, and 12,029 witnessed a 3-0 win over Minnesota State in the regular season finale on March 3. Those two crowds ranked as the fourth and fifth-largest in program history.”

Hmmm... Seems like there isn't any problem at all playing "no-name" programs according to those numbers. If the fans don't show up in your building, maybe they just don't care about the HOME team?

Ryan JUMD's best attended home game in program history was against CC.

WildShawn
04-18-2012, 12:52 PM
Super Insightful

aparch
04-18-2012, 01:02 PM
UMD's best attended home game in program history was against CC.
First game of the new arena?

willythekid
04-18-2012, 01:10 PM
First game of the new arena?

I think umd fans would like to forget who opened their new barn...

Bale
04-18-2012, 01:14 PM
nice. large. sample.
great indepth reporting.
How about using a team that doesn't rank 2nd in attendence.
One of those games was the final home game. I bet you would find all final home games for the und are well attended.
And yes maybe the large amount of a population want to see a top flight opponent when their team isn't doing that well. MSU season tickets dropped this summer when the schedule came out and there was no UM on it. Conference reallignment probably played a role as well. Two games attendence gleened from one teams schedule one year does not debunk anything.

Well, historically, DU and CC have the lowest attendance for MSU-M each time they come to Kato. For many schools it depends on who you play, but not necessarily the level of competition. Not saying that's consistent throughout all of college hockey, just the case for one middling team.

JohnsonsJerseys
04-18-2012, 01:31 PM
nice. large. sample.
great indepth reporting.
How about using a team that doesn't rank 2nd in attendence.
One of those games was the final home game. I bet you would find all final home games for the und are well attended.
Two games attendence gleened from one teams schedule one year does not debunk anything.

The entire history of UND hockey, I would say that is a fairly large sample. It shouldn't matter what team you use for the analysis because it is a relative comparison between teams that come into a given team's barn. My point is, if the team you're playing matters then I would expect all of the top 20 attended games at UND would be against Minnesota, Denver, Duluth, etc (their rivals). Correct?
The fact that Tech and Mankato make the top five tells me that UND fans will go watch UND play anyone, and that was the point of this post. They don't just show up when a "premium team" comes to town and stay home when they play a bottom-feeder. And while this may not hold true for your team then that means to me that the fans are there to see the visitors, not the home team. Well what kind of fans are they if they are not there to see the home team?
Ryan J

Biddco
04-18-2012, 01:33 PM
First game of the new arena?
Nope, but it was the last regular season game of the year:

http://www.collegehockeystats.net/1112/boxes/mcc_mnd1.f25


I think umd fans would like to forget who opened their new barn...

I think UND fans would like to forget who opened their barn....

http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0102/boxes/mminndk1.o05

It's too bad UND couldn't play themselves in their arena opener...

SCSU Euro
04-18-2012, 01:34 PM
Myth debunked. Now that we've settled this can we all pool the resources we were gonna use debating this topic and get the NCAA video game on X Box, PS whatever they're up to and the Wii?

JohnsonsJerseys
04-18-2012, 01:35 PM
I think umd fans would like to forget who opened their new barn...
A: UND

<img src="http://www.johnsonsjerseys.net/temp/amsoil-faceoff.jpg">

Dirty
04-18-2012, 01:36 PM
I think UND fans would like to forget who opened their barn....

http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0102/boxes/mminndk1.o05

It's too bad UND couldn't play themselves in their arena opener...

On the plus side at least in their arena opener UND remembered that the point of hockey is to score goals.

Osorojo
04-18-2012, 01:52 PM
People whose business is creating attendance agree that publicity is the most important factor. If you can accept the conclusions of experts you might begin to appreciate how coverage by electronic media will replace posters on telephone poles and articles in the second section of local newspapers - and revolutionize finances in college hockey.

HumRsky
04-18-2012, 01:53 PM
On the plus side at least in their arena opener UND remembered that the point of hockey is to score goals.

I thought it was to break glass.

Biddco
04-18-2012, 01:54 PM
On the plus side at least in their arena opener UND remembered that the point of hockey is to score goals.

We didnt give up seven goals.

SCSU Euro
04-18-2012, 02:01 PM
A: UND

<img src="http://www.johnsonsjerseys.net/temp/amsoil-faceoff.jpg">

I really hate to break up this ****ing contest with an actual question, but I guess I've never paid attention to who takes faceoffs at ceremonial things like that... is it always the captain (assuming like 99.8% of teams out there your captain is a skater)? I guess I mean do they always send out the captain or always send out a center or always send out least a forward? Or if a team's got a defenseman who's their captain does he get to take it?

dggoddard
04-18-2012, 02:03 PM
You have 58 college hockey programs and suffice it to say you have 58 sets of variables that impact attendance.

Clearly who you play on a given night or weekend can have a tremendous impact on both attendance (internet/walk up sales) and revenue.

Dirty
04-18-2012, 02:08 PM
We didnt give up seven goals.

A small consolation for you I'm sure given UMD forgot the point of hockey.

theprofromdover
04-18-2012, 02:13 PM
I really hate to break up this ****ing contest with an actual question, but I guess I've never paid attention to who takes faceoffs at ceremonial things like that... is it always the captain (assuming like 99.8% of teams out there your captain is a skater)? I guess I mean do they always send out the captain or always send out a center or always send out least a forward? Or if a team's got a defenseman who's their captain does he get to take it?

Chara, the captain defenseman, takes them for the Bruins.