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  • #46
    Re: NCAA era Program rankings-accomplishments only

    Where are the bonus points for winning the DQ Cup?

    And I'm sorry, did Dubbs call something someone else did a waste of time?
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    • #47
      Re: NCAA era Program rankings-accomplishments only

      Originally posted by SteveF View Post
      what is worse... wasting time by creating formulas to rank teams or wasting time by complaining about those formulas?
      the correct answer is B, complaining . i like reading these things and it's something to discuss and have fun with when the season is over. If some will consider that instead of hijacking the thread it would be more entertaining. FS23 deserves credit here rather than grief
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post

        Either way, this is getting this thread wayyyyy too far off track. I like your formula for the most part, and I think it does a solid job of ranking teams based on their on-ice accomplishments, which is what I believe you were going for.
        That what I was going for. I do think if your doing a more subjective and exhaustive ranking that encompasses the entire history of college hockey, then all pre-NCAA successes are very relevant. However, it is much more difficult to research and determine the legitimacy of various conference and national title claims. I felt that the NCAA era was an appropriate time frame that gave the most solid numbers and is the time at which most fans look the closest.
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        • #49
          Re: NCAA era Program rankings-accomplishments only

          Just curious, and excuse my not knowing, but I've been wondering where and when Brock Hall comes into the picture concerning college hockey. I've tried looking around (Google and so on) and can't come up with much information other than a hall at the University of Connecticut. Was Brock Hall a club team at UConn back in the 40s and then competed in an AAU championship? Thanks for the info...
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          • #50
            Re: NCAA era Program rankings-accomplishments only

            Originally posted by aygwm2 View Post
            Just curious, and excuse my not knowing, but I've been wondering where and when Brock Hall comes into the picture concerning college hockey. I've tried looking around (Google and so on) and can't come up with much information other than a hall at the University of Connecticut. Was Brock Hall a club team at UConn back in the 40s and then competed in an AAU championship? Thanks for the info...
            I think that Brock Hall was not a college hockey team. The AAU was a national amateur tournament, not a college tournament. College teams are, of course, amateur (technically) and Minnesota just happened to play in, and win, that tournament in 1940.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by burd View Post
              Illinois used fortune magazines for shinpads.
              We hosted a Russian team for a youth tournament when I was growing up. Many of them didn't have shoulder pads and used rolled up newspaper for shin pads. They destroyed everyone on the way to running away with the tournament.

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              • #52
                Re: NCAA era Program rankings-accomplishments only

                Originally posted by aygwm2 View Post
                Just curious, and excuse my not knowing, but I've been wondering where and when Brock Hall comes into the picture concerning college hockey. I've tried looking around (Google and so on) and can't come up with much information other than a hall at the University of Connecticut. Was Brock Hall a club team at UConn back in the 40s and then competed in an AAU championship? Thanks for the info...
                Originally posted by HumRsky View Post
                I think that Brock Hall was not a college hockey team. The AAU was a national amateur tournament, not a college tournament. College teams are, of course, amateur (technically) and Minnesota just happened to play in, and win, that tournament in 1940.
                Right, I understand the Amateur Athletic Union (I swam AAU back in the 70s). And I realize that Brock Hall was not a college hockey team. I guess my question wasn't very clear. What I was wondering was more along the lines of what Brock Hall is or was. Was/is it a prep school out East (Connecticut)? Was it a club team at UConn? Do they still exist? Why would Minnesota, as a University program, care whether they had won an AAU championship against Brock Hall back in the 40s? Thanks in advance...
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by aygwm2 View Post
                  Right, I understand the Amateur Athletic Union (I swam AAU back in the 70s). And I realize that Brock Hall was not a college hockey team. I guess my question wasn't very clear. What I was wondering was more along the lines of what Brock Hall is or was. Was/is it a prep school out East (Connecticut)? Was it a club team at UConn? Do they still exist? Why would Minnesota, as a University program, care whether they had won an AAU championship against Brock Hall back in the 40s? Thanks in advance...
                  Because Minnesota had a perfect 18-0 season in 1940 that culminated in the AAU Championship.

                  That year, they beat Michigan 9-2, 5-2, 7-0, 5-0
                  They beat Michigan Tech 9-1, 8-0, 7-1, 9-1
                  They beat Yale 3-0, 7-2
                  They beat Illinois 8-2, 10-2, 9-1, 9-2
                  Last edited by JDUBBS1280; 04-14-2012, 08:30 PM.

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                  • #54
                    Re: NCAA era Program rankings-accomplishments only

                    Originally posted by JDUBBS1280 View Post
                    We hosted a Russian team for a youth tournament when I was growing up. Many of them didn't have shoulder pads and used rolled up newspaper for shin pads. They destroyed everyone on the way to running away with the tournament.
                    Minnesota tournament, right?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by burd View Post
                      Minnesota tournament, right?
                      The tournament was in Minnesota, yes, but there were quite a few out of state teams and the Russian team there. Fun playing against the Russians. Very nice people too.

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                      • #56
                        Re: NCAA era Program rankings-accomplishments only

                        Originally posted by JDUBBS1280 View Post
                        The tournament was in Minnesota, yes, but there were quite a few out of state teams and the Russian team there. Fun playing against the Russians. Very nice people too.
                        I would've thought rather than taking the ice, you'd just forfeit the game to avoid playing a team that didn't have any tradition.
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                        • #57
                          Re: NCAA era Program rankings-accomplishments only

                          Originally posted by SteveF View Post
                          what is worse... wasting time by creating formulas to rank teams or wasting time by complaining about those formulas?
                          I have developed a formula for ranking formulas that rank college hockey teams. One criteria is what JDubbs thinks of it but I don't want to give away too much. Rankings coming out soon...
                          Bottom Line: If you deserve to win the national championship then don't worry about who you play, when, and where. Just keep winning.
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                          • #58
                            Re: NCAA era Program rankings-accomplishments only

                            Woohoo! We're #36!!
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                            • #59
                              Re: NCAA era Program rankings-accomplishments only

                              Originally posted by SteveF View Post
                              what is worse... wasting time by creating formulas to rank teams or wasting time by complaining about those formulas?
                              You mean the Pairwise?
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by aygwm2 View Post
                                Why would Minnesota, as a University program, care whether they had won an AAU championship against Brock Hall back in the 40s? Thanks in advance...
                                I think it is because 7>5
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