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Dutchman
04-12-2012, 02:29 PM
Which Schools will lead the ECAC next year? Cornell looks very Strong. Will the league continue to be very competitive? What about St. Lawrence?, Clarkson?, Yale? Will Brown improve? Who takes the Cleary? The Tournament? Does Harvard make it to the Frozen Four?

bothman
04-12-2012, 03:29 PM
The favorites (based solely on who is coming back and we know that there are many more ingredients that matter) have to be Union, Cornell, and Harvard.

LTsatch
04-12-2012, 04:49 PM
Yale is still too much of a young rebuilding work in progress to even speculate about them. The loss of O'Neill is huge and I do not see anyone on the team replacing his points except possibly Langanierre or Agostino. Andrew Miller will also have to step up his offensive scoring and use his moves to score goals and not make so many passes. The incoming crop looks good but with 6 freshmen and 7 sophomores on the team it will still be a tough row to hoe. Jeff Malcolm Nick Maricic do provide decent goaltending though.

Returning forwards and defense
Gms G A T
17 Andrew Miller F SR | 34 7 29 36
18 Kenny Agostino (PIT) F JR | 33 14 20 34
28 Antoine Laganiere F SR | 35 19 14 33
20 Jesse Root F JR | 33 7 17 24
15 Clinton Bourbonais F JR | 34 7 14 21
22 Tommy Fallen D SO | 35 4 16 20
21 Colin Dueck D SR | 33 3 11 14
2 Gus Young (COL) D JR | 35 3 9 12
19 Anthony Day F SO | 18 4 2 6
26 Nicholas Weberg F SO | 20 2 4 6
7 Matt Killian D SO | 31 1 5 6
12 Trent Ruffolo F SO | 18 3 2 5
8 Josh Balch F SR| 34 2 2 4
13 Brad Peltz (OTT) F JR | 9 1 0 1
16 Alex Ward F SO | 1 0 0 0

JakeMalloy
04-12-2012, 06:40 PM
Union is likely to dominate this league for the next decade or more. Cornell seems to be the only Ivy that consistently tries to compete - Yale will pop up now and again. Until Clarkson or Saint Lawrence powers up Union will have no competitors.

jericho
04-12-2012, 07:34 PM
Union is likely to dominate this league for the next decade or more. Cornell seems to be the only Ivy that consistently tries to compete - Yale will pop up now and again. Until Clarkson or Saint Lawrence powers up Union will have no competitors.

And it begins anew...

fr joe
04-12-2012, 08:26 PM
And it begins anew...

Another long, hot summer filled with all kinds of mirages... ;)

Wholin1
04-12-2012, 09:20 PM
Probably RPI or are they moving to HE? :p

css228
04-12-2012, 10:17 PM
Union is likely to dominate this league for the next decade or more. I stopped right there. Union almost didn't win the one seed this year, and dropped 3 of possible points against Cornell, yet people are acting like they ran away with the league. Let's not pretend the results of the season didn't happen. Cornell was pretty much as good as Union this year. Otherwise they wouldn't have had the inside track to the one seed on the last day of the season, or been half a period away from the Frozen Four. Also let's not pretend 32 points isn't an incredibly low total for winning the league. Maybe if they had 36 or 38 I'd agree with you, but given who Cornell returns next year, my money is on them to win the league. In fact, I think that Cornell is a legitimate national title contender for the next two years (Union should be too). We've seen this same story with runs from Clarkson, Harvard, Princeton, and Yale all taking their turns being near the top of the league this last decade. The only constant has been the Big Red. I'm more than willing to bet that for the next decade, the constant will still be Cornell.

fr joe
04-12-2012, 10:32 PM
Probably RPI or are they moving to HE? :p

;) May I suggest?... enjoy the summer. Enjoy the season just past.

There will be time enough to wait and see who turns pro, who enrolls, who heals from injury etc, and then, this fall, who's ready to lead next season... or even the next decade. ;)

rdf8585
04-12-2012, 10:43 PM
No reason to think Union won't be towards the top again. They're losing a few key pieces (Welsh, Zajac, Julseth-White) but also bring a lot back and have several promising recruits coming in.... Andrew Johnston, David Roy, Sebastian Gingras, Matt Wilkins to name a few.

FlagDUDE08
04-13-2012, 07:24 AM
I stopped right there. Union almost didn't win the one seed this year, and dropped 3 of possible points against Cornell, yet people are acting like they ran away with the league. Let's not pretend the results of the season didn't happen. Cornell was pretty much as good as Union this year. Otherwise they wouldn't have had the inside track to the one seed on the last day of the season, or been half a period away from the Frozen Four. Also let's not pretend 32 points isn't an incredibly low total for winning the league. Maybe if they had 36 or 38 I'd agree with you, but given who Cornell returns next year, my money is on them to win the league. In fact, I think that Cornell is a legitimate national title contender for the next two years (Union should be too). We've seen this same story with runs from Clarkson, Harvard, Princeton, and Yale all taking their turns being near the top of the league this last decade. The only constant has been the Big Red. I'm more than willing to bet that for the next decade, the constant will still be Cornell.

And Cornell couldn't even beat the team that spent most of the year in the basement. It's not like they were running away with it, either.

drshoen
04-13-2012, 09:28 AM
Clarkson has a huge unknown in net - with Karpo gone, and the remaining goaltenders with almost no experience, and new recruits coming to challenge for starting spots, it's hard to guess what will happen. I think offense and defense will both improve, but without a backstopper it will be hard to challenge for top 4, much less top 1 or 2.

css228
04-13-2012, 12:05 PM
And Cornell couldn't even beat the team that spent most of the year in the basement. It's not like they were running away with it, either. I never said they were. I'm just sick of the perception that Union ran away with the league. It didn't happen and we shouldn't act like it did. This wasn't 2002-2003 when Cornell had 38, Harvard was in the mid 30s and no one else was within 10 points of Cornell. I'm just saying that we should expect another tight race next year. Just like this year.

MarkEagleUSA
04-13-2012, 05:37 PM
While I don't think they'll take the crown, I do expect Quinnipiac will be a force (top 4) in the league next year.

French Rage
04-13-2012, 05:39 PM
And it begins anew...

ECAC hockey - founded in 2009, apparently.

ColSkate65
04-15-2012, 07:51 PM
It's difficult to replace an Austin Smith and Chris Wagner, but Colgate should be in the mix with a good bunch of recruits coming in to augment scoring by Robbie Bourdon, Kurtis Bartliff etc. and some D-men with experience. Mihalik should continue to move upward among ECAC goalies with another year behind him.

jericho
04-15-2012, 08:47 PM
Is it fair to say that the team that (pick a poster) roots for will be in the top four contender?

burgie12
04-15-2012, 08:52 PM
Is it fair to say that the team that (pick a poster) roots for will be in the top four contender?
Absolutely not.

I am an ardent Brown fan and I'd be shocked if they finish any better than 11th.

rightwing
04-16-2012, 09:41 AM
The ECAC was so bunched up last year, and there is no reason 2012-2013 will be different. Except for Union and Cornell, you could probably invert the table this year and not be too far off.

kdiff77
04-16-2012, 10:53 AM
Absolutely not.

I am an ardent Brown fan and I'd be shocked if they finish any better than 11th.

Hey, we should see some improvement this year. I'll say 10th.