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hockeyplayer1015
04-06-2012, 05:31 PM
Jack Connolly is a great player, and I'mma let him finish, but Austin Smith got screwed. /kanye

Congrats to Jack, hard to argue the selection, as he certainly had a great year/career.

UMDBulldogHockeyIsKing
04-06-2012, 05:39 PM
They may not have been able to successfully defend the title, but this ain't a shabby consolation. Congratulations, Jack. Another addition to the Hobey family here in Duluth.

DropPass
04-06-2012, 05:47 PM
Congrats to a true class act, leader and deserving Hobey Baker winner, Jack Connolly.

burd
04-06-2012, 06:29 PM
They may not have been able to successfully defend the title, but this ain't a shabby consolation. Congratulations, Jack. Another addition to the Hobey family here in Duluth.

How many is that for UMD?

4four4
04-06-2012, 06:30 PM
Jack Connolly is a great player, and I'mma let him finish, but Austin Smith got screwed. /kanye

Congrats to Jack, hard to argue the selection, as he certainly had a great year/career.

Don't let people fool you into believing last year didn't have anything to do with the hobey outcome this year.

Zudnic
04-06-2012, 06:32 PM
That is frickig appalling. Austin Smith was head and shoulders above the field.

all bear
04-06-2012, 06:34 PM
Best thing ever to happen to Spence :D

Jeff_Jackson_for_Pres.
04-06-2012, 06:34 PM
How many is that for UMD?
I believe Connolly makes 5.

4four4
04-06-2012, 06:42 PM
That is frickig appalling. Austin Smith was head and shoulders above the field.

The best player doesn't always win the Hobey Baker. There are other things that go into voting on the award.

Biddco
04-06-2012, 07:11 PM
UMD has more Hobey Bakers than any other school in the nation with 5. Congratulations to Jack Connolly! A more than deserving player!

KnowItAll
04-06-2012, 07:15 PM
That is frickig appalling. Austin Smith was head and shoulders above the field.

it really sucks... I know for a fact that Connolly was trying to enrich uranium for the Iranians and taking lollipops from kids at local banks the whole time Austin Smith was donating bone marrow, curing cancer tracking down Nicole Brown Smith's real killer, AND scoring over 9 goals per game and just begging the officials not to count all of them, so that the feelings of the opposition would not be hurt.


:rolleyes

TripleE
04-06-2012, 08:06 PM
Wow. Two of the last three years, UMaine has had the national scoring champion, and both years the Hobey was given to a WCHA player. Of course there is no western bias. :rolleyes:


Out of the 3, I would have given Jack the 3rd place vote.

Austin Smith had a special, dominate, and did I say special? season. He was certainly the ace that helped Colgate linger around the bubble late in the season.


But with Abbott, we're talking about

-The national scoring champ who led a once prominent program back to the NCAAs for the first time in 5 years. He outscored Connolly in two fewer games, playing in a conference that had 4 goaltenders in the GAA top 20 vs. 2, and had 5 goaltenders in the SavePct Top 20 vs 3.

MVPs come up big in big spots. In their Game 3 QF series with Merrimack, he scored a goal and an assist in a 2-1 clinching win. Against BU in the semis, he had two assists before suffering a concussion. After being questionable all week, and not knowing what extent his effectiveness will be in the NCAAs in recovering from the concussion, he still managed a goal, pretty or not.

I don't usually wear bias on my sleeve, but this is pathetic.

4four4
04-06-2012, 08:40 PM
Hobey Baker Award Criteria


1. Candidates must exhibit strength of character both on and off the ice.

2. Candidates must contribute to the integrity of the team and display outstanding skills in all phases of the game.

3. Consideration should be given to scholastic achievement and sportmanship.

4. Candidates must comply with all NCAA rules: be full time students in an accredited NCAA college or university; and complete 50% or more of the season.


Here is the criteria. I would guess (3) is the tiebreaker.

DropPass
04-06-2012, 08:45 PM
Wow. Two of the last three years, UMaine has had the national scoring champion, and both years the Hobey was given to a WCHA player. Of course there is no western bias. :rolleyes:


Out of the 3, I would have given Jack the 3rd place vote.

Austin Smith had a special, dominate, and did I say special? season. He was certainly the ace that helped Colgate linger around the bubble late in the season.


But with Abbott, we're talking about

-The national scoring champ who led a once prominent program back to the NCAAs for the first time in 5 years. He outscored Connolly in two fewer games, playing in a conference that had 4 goaltenders in the GAA top 20 vs. 2, and had 5 goaltenders in the SavePct Top 20 vs 3.

MVPs come up big in big spots. In their Game 3 QF series with Merrimack, he scored a goal and an assist in a 2-1 clinching win. Against BU in the semis, he had two assists before suffering a concussion. After being questionable all week, and not knowing what extent his effectiveness will be in the NCAAs in recovering from the concussion, he still managed a goal, pretty or not.

I don't usually wear bias on my sleeve, but this is pathetic.

Correct, absolutely pathetic.

SCSU Euro
04-06-2012, 09:14 PM
Yeah, but even with him MEg and RwD's fantasy team still sucked.

I can't believe all the "my guy deserved it more" rah rah. You could make a case for 3 to 5 guys every year. It doesn't matter how many goalies in one conference were in the top in GAA or sv%, usually the best individual leaders in those are from AHA or ECAC bc its easier to put up numbers there, so your argument could be turned against you.

I can't stand tUMD but congratulate the guy and move on or keep quiet and move on.

Oh... and Harty was STILL robbed!

ColSkate65
04-06-2012, 09:16 PM
This is obviously a case of Colgate not making it into the tournament-bias. Austin Smith: leading goal scorer; lead nation in SHGs; second in total points; among the leaders in assists. What's not to like? It is obvious that an eastern college player cannot win this award, given the politics involved.

The voting should have gone like this: 1. Austin Smith, 2. Abbott, 3. Connolly. Jack's a great player and deserving of recognition, just not the Hobey Baker Award this season.

TripleE
04-06-2012, 09:32 PM
Character and Academics play a role, sure, but you're not going to be a Top 10 or Top 3 finalist if you aren't adequate or better in each criteria.

Strictly going by on ice performance, Connolly got the bronze out of those 3. Yet he won the thing, making it the 8th time in the last 11 years its been given to a WCHA player.

Was his community service donating a kidney or something? :p

huskyfan
04-06-2012, 09:49 PM
Congrats to Connolly and the Bulldogs!! well played, indeed.

The Rube
04-06-2012, 09:59 PM
Yeah, but even with him MEg and RwD's fantasy team still sucked.

I can't believe all the "my guy deserved it more" rah rah. You could make a case for 3 to 5 guys every year. It doesn't matter how many goalies in one conference were in the top in GAA or sv%, usually the best individual leaders in those are from AHA or ECAC bc its easier to put up numbers there, so your argument could be turned against you.

I can't stand tUMD but congratulate the guy and move on or keep quiet and move on.

Oh... and Harty was STILL robbed!

One could also argue that a player who plays for the EZAC or AHA aren't WCHA/HE/CCHA caliber in the first place, so they are playing at their level of competition.

Happy
04-06-2012, 10:05 PM
Character and Academics play a role, sure, but you're not going to be a Top 10 or Top 3 finalist if you aren't adequate or better in each criteria.

Strictly going by on ice performance, Connolly got the bronze out of those 3. Yet he won the thing, making it the 8th time in the last 11 years its been given to a WCHA player.

Was his community service donating a kidney or something? :p


He did something those other two didn't, he came back for his Senior year after winning the Championship. Neither of those other two come close to that for off ice criteria.