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  • #16
    Re: Union College: Some History

    Originally posted by Rolevio View Post
    Union and Harvard have two completely different stories on this. But both stories involve them showing up to a crew race claiming the same color (If I recall right Union claims the color was red, and Harvard claims that color was Magenta). Union's version has the schools picking different shades of red (Crimson/Garnet) to seperate themselves before the race. Harvard's story has Harvard students taking a vote to settle an internal school debate between using Magenta or Crimson and had nothing to do with Union. And the vote was decades after the boat race in question and Union had long ago switched to Garnet.
    You're right. Before they were the Garnet and the Crimson, respectively, I think both schools called themselves the Magenta. Really. And then Union history says they had a fight over who the color belonged to.

    You can read Union's version of the story here: http://www.union.edu/N/DS/edition_di...p?e=932&s=4363

    And here's the Harvard version: http://www.thecrimson.com/article/20...mson-harvards/


    Its up to you to decide who to believe...
    Last edited by Eph72; 03-23-2012, 10:14 AM. Reason: add complete urls

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    • #17
      Re: Union College: Some History

      Originally posted by Eph72 View Post
      You're right. Before they were the Garnet and the Crimson, respectively, I think both schools called themselves the Magenta. Really. And then Union history says they had a fight over who the color belonged to.

      You can read Union's version of the story here: http://www.union.edu/N/DS/edition_di...p?e=932&s=4363

      And here's the Harvard version: http://www.thecrimson.com/article/20...mson-harvards/

      Its up to you to decide who to believe...
      It's also up to you to provide complete links.

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      • #18
        Re: Union College: Some History

        Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
        It's also up to you to provide complete links.
        Whoops...Here they are:

        http://www.union.edu/N/DS/edition_di...p?e=932&s=4363

        http://www.thecrimson.com/article/20...mson-harvards/

        Hopefully, these will work...

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        • #19
          Re: Union College: Some History

          Union's most famous president Eliphalet Nott once held TWO college presidents jobs at once: Union from 1804-1866 and, interestingly enough, RPI from 1829-1845.

          Insert your own rivalry joke here, lol

          Keith.
          Keith Reynolds
          Union College
          Class of 1992
          B.A. in Economics/Mathematics

          University of Nevada - Las Vegas
          Class of 2001
          M.S. in Sports and Leisure Management

          "I went to Union before it sucked...."

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          • #20
            Re: Union College: Some History

            Originally posted by RSTuthill View Post
            I am the Dad of a Union alum and my son loved the school. Great place. I have also been inside the Nott and found it fascinating.
            There are some very strange corners in that place. Also bats. Lots of lots of possibly rabid bats. But I haven't been there since the 90's so (hopefully) not anymore.

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            • #21
              Re: Union College: Some History

              Originally posted by uniondutch21 View Post
              You left out the part about the President of Union college being quoted in 2003/4 saying that if the hockey team won 40% of their games it would be a successful season.

              I entered union in 2002...the 02/03 season was the first year the team had a home playoff series, my senior year was the first year they won a playoff series. Now they are in the NCAA's twice and ECAC Champions.

              2000 students, liberal arts school. Hockey rink needs to be replaced like most in the ECAC...at least there are no Obstructed View seats like in troilet.

              There is a little perspective.
              At least the "troilet" has actual spotlights instead of giant strap-on hip-gyration-operated spotlights like Messsofa Rink, and actually does the Canadian National Anthem before games

              All in good fun of course
              Hockey is serious business. Everything else is just a game.

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              • #22
                Re: Union College: Some History

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                There are some very strange corners in that place. Also bats. Lots of lots of possibly rabid bats. But I haven't been there since the 90's so (hopefully) not anymore.
                Was completely renovated in 1995. No more bats. (Or ivy growing all over it)
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                • #23
                  Re: Union College: Some History

                  Originally posted by Rolevio View Post
                  I think you are merging William Seward (Secretary of State, Purchaser of Alaska) and Squire Whipple (Bridge Designer) who designed the Whipple Truss Bridges which that pedestrian bridge is a smaller scale of. The Whipple Truss was first made famous in it's use over many Erie canal crossings.
                  Ah, but it is called the Seward Bridge is it not? I thought that particular one was designed by Seward himself although he may have used the Whipple design methodology.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Union College: Some History

                    Originally posted by RSTuthill View Post
                    Ah, but it is called the Seward Bridge is it not? I thought that particular one was designed by Seward himself although he may have used the Whipple design methodology.
                    I don't believe so, at least on the name. It was definitely not designed by Seward.
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                    • #25
                      Re: Union College: Some History

                      Bumping this first post with urls that (hopefully) now work for readers interested in the history of the beginnings and evolution of Union's hockey program.

                      Originally posted by Eph72 View Post
                      More than a few casual hockey fans might be wondering this week how tiny Union College happens to have a Division 1 college hockey program and where it comes from.

                      Here's some history (academic and hockey history) I wrote up last October and am reposting.

                      Founded in 1795 and located in Schenectady, NY, Union was the first institution of higher learning chartered by New York State. Only Columbia is older and it was founded not by the state but by a royal charter granted by King George II in 1754.

                      In the 1820s and 30s Union was the birthplace of college greek letter fraternities in the US and has been called the "Mother of Fraternities". Kappa Alpha Society, Sigma Phi, and Delta Phi, known collectively as the Union Triad, were founded there between 1825 to 1827. Several other fraternities, including Psi Upsilon (1833), Chi Psi (1841) and Theta Delta Chi (1847) were also founded at Union.

                      During the first half of the 19th century Union experienced great success and was ranked with Harvard and Yale among the top colleges in the country. By 1839 Union had one of the largest faculties in American higher education and an enrollment surpassed only by Yale. It was one of the first colleges to develop a scientific curriculum alongside the traditional "classical" curriculum and Union's President, Eliphalet Nott, was thought by many to be the preeminent college president in the US during the period.

                      In 1881 Chester Arthur, Union class of 1848, became the 21st President of the United States.

                      Union hockey began in the early 1900s, but, unlike its neighboring upstate New York schools, like RPI and Clarkson, it enjoyed no particular success and hockey was dropped as a varsity sport in the 1940s.

                      After World War II, Williams, Amherst and Wesleyan joined Bowdoin and Dartmouth in signing the so-called Pentagonal Agreement regarding college athletics and academics. This led to the formation of the New England Small College Athletic Conference in 1971 by the Pentagonal colleges (other than Dartmouth which had joined the Ivy League in the meantime) together with Union and Bates, Colby, Hamilton, Middlebury and Trinity colleges and Tufts University.

                      About the time it joined NESCAC, Union had a new president named Thomas Bonner, who wanted to raise the profile of the school's athletic programs. Bonner hired Tom Cahill, the former Army football coach, to build up the football program and Ned Harkness, the controversial former RPI, Cornell and Detroit Red Wings coach, as head coach and rink manager, to revive the hockey program. Bonner apparently gave the coaches carte blanche to do whatever was needed to win -- and win quickly. Funds were raised for a new arena and the Achilles Center rink was built.

                      The hockey team began play in NCAA Division III and was instantly successful, finishing with a 20–4–1 record in the 1975–76 season, their first since the 1940s, with a roster full of freshmen. Harkness followed up this initial success with a 22–3–1 season in 1976-77, and the young program was well on its way to becoming a powerhouse. Sports Illustrated wrote the Harkness comeback story up in February 1977: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...ndex.htm<br />.

                      At the same time, however, there was a huge amount of controversy over the limitations imposed by the small college-oriented NESCAC on Union's athletic aspirations and in May 1977 Union decided to leave the NESCAC altogether. See: http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=1191,4829816.

                      The 1977–78 season started off with the team going 4–1–1 record in their first 6 games. However, a battle between the academic powers that be and Harkness was brewing. In late December, four of Harkness' top players were put on academic probation and barred from playing. Harkness was furious and abruptly quit. Reports were flying that he had violated NESCAC recruiting rules (and then lied to Bonner about it) and that admission standards for hockey players had been compromised. Many of the Union players coming in as freshmen were well into their twenties and had played for Canadian Senior teams; others were NHL draftees drawn by the chance to play for Harkness (a former coach of the Detroit Red Wings) and his plan to jump the team to Division I. Upon hearing of their coach's decision to leave, the entire team refused to play the remainder of the season in a show of solidarity with their coach.

                      Overnight, the school's JV team turned into the varsity and due to the scandal, Union's formal schedule was cancelled. They were forced to play a makeshift schedule which included games against prep schools such as Hotchkiss, Trinity-Pawling, and Kimball Union, as well as games against other school's JV teams. They went 0-13-0 for the rest of the season and were outscored 146-32. As for Harkness, he instantly resurfaced as the founder/GM of the AHL's Adirondack Red Wings. In 1982, he was appointed president/CEO of the U.S. Olympic Regional Development Authority in Lake Placid.

                      In May 1978, Bonner left Union to become President of Wayne State University. He had never recovered from the Harkness controversy. See: http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...+gazette&hl=en

                      Union went back to D3 hockey the following year, except, for better or worse, they were no longer NESCAC members, and stayed there until 1991 when it accepted an invitation to replace Army in the ECAC.

                      Union struggled in the ECAC for many years and many observers and their own fans thought they would never succeed at the D1 level.

                      So much for history.

                      (Note: I'm not a Union alum, just the uncle of one. I apologize in advance if I've misstated anything above and welcome corrections and additions. I will be pulling for Union this weekend!)

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                      • #26
                        Re: Union College: Some History

                        Originally posted by Rolevio View Post
                        Was completely renovated in 1995. No more bats. (Or ivy growing all over it)
                        I miss the ivy, tho...Gave it some character as an "old" building....

                        Keith.
                        Keith Reynolds
                        Union College
                        Class of 1992
                        B.A. in Economics/Mathematics

                        University of Nevada - Las Vegas
                        Class of 2001
                        M.S. in Sports and Leisure Management

                        "I went to Union before it sucked...."

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                        • #27
                          Re: Union College: Some History

                          Originally posted by ibanezist00 View Post
                          At least the "troilet" has actual spotlights instead of giant strap-on hip-gyration-operated spotlights like Messsofa Rink, and actually does the Canadian National Anthem before games

                          All in good fun of course
                          Union doesn't do the Canadian Anthem anymore? That's a shame.....They did it when I went in the late 1980's...Frankly, there was 3 times as many Canucks on the roster as Americans, so it was only fair....

                          Keith.
                          Keith Reynolds
                          Union College
                          Class of 1992
                          B.A. in Economics/Mathematics

                          University of Nevada - Las Vegas
                          Class of 2001
                          M.S. in Sports and Leisure Management

                          "I went to Union before it sucked...."

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                          • #28
                            Re: Union College: Some History

                            Originally posted by uniontrack View Post
                            I miss the ivy, tho...Gave it some character as an "old" building....

                            Keith.
                            Here's a link to a slideshow of the Union campus, including lots of shots of the renovated Nott Memorial, which although no long ivy-clad or bat-ridden, has plenty of character: http://www.flickriver.com/groups/401394@N22/pool/

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by uniontrack View Post
                              I miss the ivy, tho...Gave it some character as an "old" building....

                              Keith.
                              I've only ever seen pictures of it with the ivy (first campus visit was 1996) but I like the current presentation more. Fits better with the rest of the campus and shows off the stonework.
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                              • #30
                                Re: Union College: Some History

                                Am I correct, no scholarships

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