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PrezdeJohnson09
03-20-2012, 09:39 AM
I don't know how Dan Lukes does it...I'd go insane if a large portion of the Division III hockey following couldn't get my school's name right.

Where did the "S" come from that everyone seems to like to associate with the school. Is there a reason for it?

Now before anyone goes to the other thread I just posted in, I jokingly added the "S" as a tounge in cheek to go along with Herb Brooks Soviet quote from Miracle.

How upset would Norwich alums get if we were referred to as Norwich College or Norwick University? (and as aside...I rarely say 'wick' on this forum and I have NEVER and NEVER will ever refer to it that way in any sort of public press release/story.)

I guess the kicker for me was when one of the local media stations called them "St. Norbert's" all weekend. It's one thing to do it on a forum, it's another to get it wrong in the media/reporting business. I have the same issue with Norwich women's sports teams being referred to as the Lady Cadets. All 20 of our sports teams are the Cadets. Plain and simple. There are no "Lady Cadets". I referred to the Amherst women as the Lady Jeffs once and was rightfully corrected by their SID that there are no Lady Jeffs at Amherst. They are the Lord Jeffs. I have never made the mistake again.

As small as it seems on the outside...it's becoming an issue I feel when the school's name has been mis-pronounced for so long that it has made its way into the media as being the "norm" for how the school is referred to.

St. Norbert is the dynasty of Division III men's hockey right now. Three titles in five years is impressive. Let's drop the "S" and start respecting the school and start calling it by its rightful name.... "St. Norbert".

norm1909
03-20-2012, 09:50 AM
I too have a pet peave with red-neck "S"s - I cringe when I hear someone say "I got to go to Walmarts" (K-Marts, whatever). Unless it is to show possession if there is no S then don't add it!!

LakerFan99
03-20-2012, 09:51 AM
I assume it's how Oswego alumni feel to hear the college called "Oswego State University", along with the "OSU" chants during games. ;)

BetterInLakePlacid
03-20-2012, 10:02 AM
In a lot of Wisconsin, it is common to refer to a church using an apostrophe s at the end. For instance, St Paul Church would commonly be referred to as St Paul’s Church. It is not a redneck thing and many highly educated people will refer to churches that way. I can see people that are used to referring churches that way to refer to the college that way as well.

To solve this problem, I suggest relaxing. Who cares about a silly extra letter? People posting on this board are not writing professionally each time they post.

jerrynu26
03-20-2012, 10:08 AM
I assume it's how Oswego alumni feel to hear the college called "Oswego State University", along with the "OSU" chants during games. ;)

Well, they were OSC on the 1980 rink scoreboard.

norm1909
03-20-2012, 10:13 AM
In a lot of Wisconsin, it is common to refer to a church using an apostrophe s at the end. For instance, St Paul Church would commonly be referred to as St Paul’s Church. It is not a redneck thing and many highly educated people will refer to churches that way. I can see people that are used to referring churches that way to refer to the college that way as well.

To solve this problem, I suggest relaxing. Who cares about a silly extra letter? People posting on this board are not writing professionally each time they post.

Unless it is plural or it is to show possession - i.e. it CAN be "St Paul’s Church", it is RED NECK!!! It is St Norbert's National Championship, it is NOT St Norberts College. I also recognize that "People posting on this board are not writing professionally each time they post", I'm often trying to multitask while posting, but repeated, blatant errors and omissions, IMO, get annoying.

jerrynu26
03-20-2012, 10:17 AM
In the east, however, you not only have Saint Anselm College, but you also have Saint Michael's College which contributtes to the confusion.

Russell Jaslow
03-20-2012, 10:18 AM
I too have a pet peave with red-neck "S"s - I cringe when I hear someone say "I got to go to Walmarts" (K-Marts, whatever). Unless it is to show possession if there is no S then don't add it!!

My first job out of school was at Grumman Aerospace on Long Island. You'll be amazed how many locals there called it Grummans. Drove us crazy.

On a happier note, I was watching the Rangers-Devils game last night on NBC Sports, and Mike Emmrick (sp?) gave a shout out to St. Norbert for winning the Division III national championship!

ColdInRomney
03-20-2012, 10:53 AM
Point taken. I guess it just seemed like there were so many of them out on the ice... ;)

ColdInRomney
03-20-2012, 10:58 AM
along with the "OSU" chants during games. ;)

I just figured that was for Boots' benefit.... ;)

daveo211
03-20-2012, 08:26 PM
Unless it is plural or it is to show possession - i.e. it CAN be "St Paul’s Church", it is RED NECK!!! It is St Norbert's National Championship, it is NOT St Norberts College. I also recognize that "People posting on this board are not writing professionally each time they post", I'm often trying to multitask while posting, but repeated, blatant errors and omissions, IMO, get annoying.

You're not alone. This has bothered me too, since the days when I couldn't travel to the Frozen Four, and watched on what was then CS TV. The announcers would ALWAYS say St. Norberts, and mispronounce Coghlins name every way imaginable. Stuff like that irritates the hell out of me when the person doing it is of the profession to know better. Anytime you're going to announce for anything, you are supposed to go over names to try and do your best. It shows a lack of respect, and a poor performance as a broadcaster/reporter.

OZFEST
03-20-2012, 08:33 PM
Wow...the season really is over:(

Toe Blake's Brother
03-20-2012, 08:48 PM
I don't know how Dan Lukes does it...I'd go insane if a large portion of the Division III hockey following couldn't get my school's name right.

Where did the "S" come from that everyone seems to like to associate with the school. Is there a reason for it?

Now before anyone goes to the other thread I just posted in, I jokingly added the "S" as a tounge in cheek to go along with Herb Brooks Soviet quote from Miracle.

How upset would Norwich alums get if we were referred to as Norwich College or Norwick University? (and as aside...I rarely say 'wick' on this forum and I have NEVER and NEVER will ever refer to it that way in any sort of public press release/story.)

I guess the kicker for me was when one of the local media stations called them "St. Norbert's" all weekend. It's one thing to do it on a forum, it's another to get it wrong in the media/reporting business. I have the same issue with Norwich women's sports teams being referred to as the Lady Cadets. All 20 of our sports teams are the Cadets. Plain and simple. There are no "Lady Cadets". I referred to the Amherst women as the Lady Jeffs once and was rightfully corrected by their SID that there are no Lady Jeffs at Amherst. They are the Lord Jeffs. I have never made the mistake again.

As small as it seems on the outside...it's becoming an issue I feel when the school's name has been mis-pronounced for so long that it has made its way into the media as being the "norm" for how the school is referred to.

St. Norbert is the dynasty of Division III men's hockey right now. Three titles in five years is impressive. Let's drop the "S" and start respecting the school and start calling it by its rightful name.... "St. Norbert".

++1

snc1
03-20-2012, 09:09 PM
I can't complain. I think I've said Oswego every way imaginable ... and unimaginable for that matter.

norm1909
03-20-2012, 09:10 PM
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How upset would Norwich alums get if we were referred to as Norwich College or Norwick University? (and as aside...I rarely say 'wick' on this forum and I have NEVER and NEVER will ever refer to it that way in any sort of public press release/story.)
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Two things - 1) I refered to Norwich as Norwick to make a point - I do not like "Wick" being used in place of "Cadets" (though "Rooks" would be ok for freshman).

2) Back when I was a student at SUNY Cobleskill, I attended some games down I-88 in Oneonta, NY where some fans justifiably chanted "Let's Go Wick" - it was here (http://hartwickhawks.com/).

Sir Nubs
03-20-2012, 09:55 PM
It's been a great year for Tim Coghlin. He won an NCAA hockey title and the Super Bowl seven weeks apart.

collegehcky2
03-20-2012, 10:11 PM
I'm always pretty good at referring to SUNY Brockport as "The College at Brockport" because it's just soooooo necessary.

SB in the 'Seo
03-21-2012, 07:03 AM
Well, they were OSC on the 1980 rink scoreboard.

Funny you mention that because I went with Oswego students who complained about that. I explained the difference to him between SUNY colleges (Geneseo/Oswego/Plattsburgh/Fredonia/Buffalo St./Brockport/Potsdam/etc.) versus 'University centers' (Buffalo/Stony Brook/Binghamton/Albany) and that "OSC" is technically more correct than "OSU" and the U that some of the colleges are adding at the end is probably more of a marketing thing, but should never be used in any formal setting (graduation, a job application, etc). He still wasn't a big fan of the "OSC" but I am interested to hear that the previous generation of Oz alums don't like the "OSU."

ColdInRomney
03-21-2012, 07:52 AM
I am interested to hear that the previous generation of Oz alums don't like the "OSU."

Agreed- we're a college, not a university center.

"Oswego is one of 13 university colleges in the 64-campus SUNY system. As a comprehensive college, Oswego offers more than 110 majors, minors, cooperative and graduate programs."

UCBadger
03-21-2012, 08:00 AM
For those of you outside of NY.....I have been told that the State of New York has much more oversight over colleges and universities than most states. One of the things they are insistent on is a strict view of what it takes to be a University. Many places it is just one or more graduate programs. In NY a school must have 2 or 3 (not sure which) research based doctoral programs. That means Neumann University in PA would not have been able to change its name from College several years ago if they were in NY. Schools like Colgate and St. Lawrence (and I am sure some others in the state) were called universities long before anyone cared about this difference and their University status has been grandfathered. Neither would be a university if they had been founded in the past 100 years. The point here is that the SUNY Colleges at...... are called that based on the New York education department rule. On an interesting note, MA had similar naming guide lines until last year when the Governor of the State made (I think all of) the state colleges into state universities by (I think) executive order.