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Chris
06-20-2012, 09:28 PM
I saw your entry, and really pondered a way to squeeze Ron Grahame in there, thinking about the service he has given as an administrator for all these years, on top of being a pretty solid goalie once upon a time. But it was pretty hard for me to think of dislodging any of the four you named. Making a list of four without Murray Armstrong would clearly be preposterous. Maggie almost the same. It would have to be in place of Masterton, who I think was our first back-to-back All American or Carle, our only Hobey Baker winner. In the end, I left well-enough alone. I figured those who have seen more seasons of Pioneer hockey than I have can make that call.

Ron Grahame is interesting. I'm too young to have seen him play, however I have heard that he was a pretty average goalie when he first showed up on campus, yet became an outstanding goalie by improving yearly...he does hold (or is near the top in) many DU goaltending stat categories. Plus, he has been an assistant coach, associate coach and assistant AD for many years which is a plus. He is also an extremely nice guy, which doesn't hurt in my book.

I think there three completely obvious ones in Murray Armstrong, Maggie and Bill Masterton. However, the fourth spot is definitely wide open...Gwoz? Carle?

I can't believe no one has at least mentioned Dallas Gaume. He was, I believe, our second ever Hobey nominee (after Eddie Beers) and no one will ever touch his 266 career points nor his 99 points in '86. I still can't understand why he didn't win the Hobey his senior year (he lost to one of the Fusco's [Scott?], from Harvard I do believe), though back then the Hobey had a tendency to be alternated between East and West, and a western guy had won the year before (if my memory is correct).

Even one that normally wouldn't even be considered: Dan Ritchie? I mean, the former chancellor is really the only reason that we have a new (newish, now) arena which is one of the biggest reasons our recruiting went up a few notches years back. He instilled an attitude of winning back into the program which is undeniable. I mean, he fired Frank Serratore with a year left on his contract because one of Frank's requirements was to improve the win total each and every season, which Frank went from 6, to 9, to 19, but back to 15 wins in his fourth season. Just a thought. Not many people have left as big a positive mark on the program as Dan Ritchie did. Plus, I heard from Jimbo, that Ritchie told my dad that after the travesty that was the '03 season, he called Gwoz into his office to fire him yet gave him "one more season"...that season was '04...

Old Pio
06-20-2012, 09:50 PM
Ron Grahame is interesting. I'm too young to have seen him play, however I have heard that he was a pretty average goalie when he first showed up on campus, yet became an outstanding goalie by improving yearly...he does hold (or is near the top in) many DU goaltending stat categories. Plus, he has been an assistant coach, associate coach and assistant AD for many years which is a plus. He is also an extremely nice guy, which doesn't hurt in my book.

I think there three completely obvious ones in Murray Armstrong, Maggie and Bill Masterton. However, the fourth spot is definitely wide open...Gwoz? Carle?

I can't believe no one has at least mentioned Dallas Gaume. He was, I believe, our second ever Hobey nominee (after Eddie Beers) and no one will ever touch his 266 career points nor his 99 points in '86. I still can't understand why he didn't win the Hobey his senior year (he lost to one of the Fusco's [Scott?], from Harvard I do believe), though back then the Hobey had a tendency to be alternated between East and West, and a western guy had won the year before (if my memory is correct).

Even one that normally wouldn't even be considered: Dan Ritchie? I mean, the former chancellor is really the only reason that we have a new (newish, now) arena which is one of the biggest reasons our recruiting went up a few notches years back. He instilled an attitude of winning back into the program which is undeniable. I mean, he fired Frank Serratore with a year left on his contract because one of Frank's requirements was to improve the win total each and every season, which Frank went from 6, to 9, to 19, but back to 15 wins in his fourth season. Just a thought. Not many people have left as big a positive mark on the program as Dan Ritchie did. Plus, I heard from Jimbo, that Ritchie told my dad that after the travesty that was the '03 season, he called Gwoz into his office to fire him yet gave him "one more season"...that season was '04...

I hadn't heard that about Gwoz. But if Jimbo said it, it's certainly true. As I have mentioned in the context of honoring our immortals (of which there are 3: Murray, Maggie and Masterton) with some mention in Magness, Carle's status is pending. Ten or 15 years from now, he'll automatically be mentioned in the same breath with the other three. Same with Gwoz. When you talk about all time greats, you need a little distance, to appreciate what they've accomplished. It will certainly happen with Carle. And equally certainly with Gwoz. Just not now.

We really need to honor those three, with the strong probability that we'll eventually honor Carle. Bronze busts, oil paintings, something really memorable and appropriately expensive. Ronnie has been a credit to DU from day 1, and a class act always, but IMHO, he's just not there with the other 3 (or 4). Multiple NC's would have changed my mind. As to Ritchie, that's interesting. But his name is on the building. And, petty though it may be, I can't ever quite get past his arrogantly thinking he was the guy to deep six "D-Rah."

I never saw Gaume play, but the record speaks for itself.

Chris
06-20-2012, 10:09 PM
I hadn't heard that about Gwoz. But if Jimbo said, it's certainly true. As I have mentioned in the context of honoring our immortals (of which there are 3: Murray, Maggie and Masterton) with some mention in Magness, Carle's status is pending. Ten or 15 years from now, he'll automatically be mentioned in the same breath with the other three. Same with Gwoz. When you talk about all time greats, you need a little distance, to appreciate what they've accomplished. It will certainly happen with Carle. And equally certainly with Gwoz. Just not now.

We really need to honor those three, with the strong probability that we'll eventually honor Carle. Bronze busts, oil paintings, something really memorable and appropriately expensive. Ronnie has been a credit to DU from day 1, and a class act always, but IMHO, he's just not there with the other 3 (or 4). Multiple NC's would have changed my mind. As to Ritchie, that's interesting. But his name is on the building. And, petty though it may be, I can't ever quite get past his arrogantly thinking he was the guy to deep six "D-Rah."

I never saw Gaume play, but the record speaks for itself.

Dallas Gaume was like our "poor man's" Gretzky...the dude just set people up for sooooo many goals that it was almost indescribable. He had 188 assists in his career...the number two scorers in our history (I believe Dwight Mathiassen and Johnny Mac) had 198 total points. Gaume's deficiency in his game was that he wasn't a very good skater (nor was he big), which are the reasons we had him for 4 seaons and the major reason he never made it in the NHL. He actually had an inclination to join the Pio coaching staff about 11 or 12 years back and reached out to my dad, who talked it over with Gwoz but George decided that he needed someone with a goaltending background (understandable) and declined and I believe that was when Seth Appert was hired...I believe Gaume ended up being a long-time assistant for Red Deer in the WHL after being turned down here.

Chris
06-20-2012, 10:35 PM
I guess it's time to bust out the hookers and blow. :o

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Old Pio
06-21-2012, 02:47 PM
Dallas Gaume was like our "poor man's" Gretzky...the dude just set people up for sooooo many goals that it was almost indescribable. He had 188 assists in his career...the number two scorers in our history (I believe Dwight Mathiassen and Johnny Mac) had 198 total points. Gaume's deficiency in his game was that he wasn't a very good skater (nor was he big), which are the reasons we had him for 4 seaons and the major reason he never made it in the NHL. He actually had an inclination to join the Pio coaching staff about 11 or 12 years back and reached out to my dad, who talked it over with Gwoz but George decided that he needed someone with a goaltending background (understandable) and declined and I believe that was when Seth Appert was hired...I believe Gaume ended up being a long-time assistant for Red Deer in the WHL after being turned down here.

I'd imagine the only thing tougher than saying "no" to a DU legend who wants to be an assistant coach would be saying "no" to a DU legend you recruited. No surprise that Jimbo was the intermediary in those delicate discussions. Everybody saves face.

vizoroo
06-21-2012, 03:59 PM
Dakota Mermis and Quentin Shore with some good press here.
http://www.collegehockeyprospective.com/2012/06/16/chp-nhl-draft-college-prospect-30-dakota-mermis/
http://www.collegehockeyprospective.com/2012/06/12/chp-nhl-draft-college-prospect-34-quentin-shore/

vizoroo
06-23-2012, 12:19 PM
Joey LaLeggia picked in the 5th round, #123, by Edmonton. No calls for Loney, D. Mermis or Q. Shore.

GoUNH
06-23-2012, 12:26 PM
I'm heading out to Denver to have Thanksgiving with my Sister and catch UNH @ DU. Looking forward to it!

Old Pio
06-23-2012, 07:17 PM
I'm heading out to Denver to have Thanksgiving with my Sister and catch UNH @ DU. Looking forward to it!

Have a great trip. Try to find the time to take a walk around campus. DU has invested half a billion or more in the last decade, and it shows.

A Shot and a Goal
06-24-2012, 11:37 AM
An NHL transaction from earlier this week.

Wednesday, June 20, 2012


Team Player Pos Transaction
New York Islanders Rhett Rakhshani RW Signed With European Team HV71-SEL (Sweden)


And for those fans fluent in speaking and/or reading Swedish... http://www.hv71.se/

Dmann
06-24-2012, 04:29 PM
Ahhhh, terra firma!!! It doesn't look like I've missed much.

I still worry about the offense. How about this, does anybody have some ideas about line pairings? Who will be our first line, second?, who will be the muckers and the grinders? Who among the Freshmen are going to be our big guns? Talk to me!!!

vizoroo
06-24-2012, 04:56 PM
An NHL transaction from earlier this week.

Wednesday, June 20, 2012


Team Player Pos Transaction
New York Islanders Rhett Rakhshani RW Signed With European Team HV71-SEL (Sweden)


And for those fans fluent in speaking and/or reading Swedish... http://www.hv71.se/

Phoenix Coyotes acquired defenseman Zbynek Michalek from the Pittsburgh Penguins in exchange for defenseman Harrison Ruopp, goaltender Marc Cheverie and the 81st selection in the 2012 NHL Draft.

vizoroo
06-24-2012, 07:23 PM
Ahhhh, terra firma!!! It doesn't look like I've missed much.

I still worry about the offense. How about this, does anybody have some ideas about line pairings? Who will be our first line, second?, who will be the muckers and the grinders? Who among the Freshmen are going to be our big guns? Talk to me!!!
Ok, Dmann, here's a purely un educated guess:
On the Blueline:
Philips and Mayfield
Makowski(?) and Didier
LaLeggia and ?? Dakota Mermis (Green Bay, USHL) or Nolan Zajac (Omaha, USHL)
20 Wade Bennett D 5-9 160 Fr. Gardena, Calif. (Wichita Falls Wildcats - NAHL)

On the forward line:
Daniel Doremus-Nick Shore-Ty Loney
??-Shawn Ostrow-Chris Knowlton
??-Quentin Shore-Jarrod Mermis
Larkin Jacobson-Matt Tabrum-??
Choose from:
16 Zac Larraza F 6-3 195 Fr. Scottsdale, Ariz. (USNTDP)
F Garrett Allen (Des Moines, USHL)
F Grant Arnold (Green Bay, USHL)
F Gabe Levin (Fairbanks, NAHL) 56 GP 18-72-90 +36
27 Dan Olszewski F 6-0 200 So. Janesville, Wis. (St. Louis - NAHL) DU website says he was suspended Feb.18 for the rest of the season. Nothing about this year.

In Goal:
1 Sam Brittain G 6-3 215 So. Calgary, Alberta (Canmore Eagles - AJHL)
33 Adam Murray G 6-2 185 Jr. Anchorage, Alaska (USNTDP)
31 Juho Olkinuora G 6-2 200 Fr. Helsinki, Finland (Sioux Falls Stampede - USHL)

Dmann
06-24-2012, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE=vizoroo;5462902]


On the forward line:
Daniel Doremus-Nick Shore-Ty Loney
??-Shawn Ostrow-Chris Knowlton
??-Quentin Shore-Jarrod Mermis
Larkin Jacobson-Matt Tabrum-??
/QUOTE]

We're dead!!!!

Old Pio
06-24-2012, 11:40 PM
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We're dead!!!!

Somebody confiscate Dmann's shoelaces. :D

du78
06-25-2012, 09:04 AM
NY Islanders' Rookie Camp starts today with Donovan and Mayfield.

vizoroo
06-25-2012, 11:13 AM
Zac Larraza taking 30 minute drive from home for Phoenix Coyotes Development Camp. Officially starts tomorrow.

du78
06-25-2012, 12:59 PM
Zac Larraza taking 30 minute drive from home for Phoenix Coyotes Development Camp. Officially starts tomorrow.

Zac needs to claim a spot on one of DU's top 3 lines. This means a big jump in his play as a sophomore.

Dmann
06-25-2012, 08:45 PM
Zac needs to claim a spot on one of DU's top 3 lines. This means a big jump in his play as a sophomore.

Oh my God I forgot about this kid!! He showed signs of being a really good player when he got ice time. I always get his name mixed up with LaLeggia.

vizoroo
06-25-2012, 09:38 PM
Zac needs to claim a spot on one of DU's top 3 lines. This means a big jump in his play as a sophomore.


Oh my God I forgot about this kid!! He showed signs of being a really good player when he got ice time. I always get his name mixed up with LaLeggia.

Zac got a late start--getting thru the clearing house snafu. Seems like he was doing OK, but did/didn't do something that put him Gwoz's doghouse for awhile. Then had a concussion.

He's not Zucker, but more of a two-way player.