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  • #31
    Re: Female players by state versus college hockey options

    Last year RIT(top of D3) beat Sir WIlfred Laurier(one of the top CIS teams) 4-0 or something. I'd say CIS is closer to D3 level, but the weak CIS teams are better than the weak D3 teams.

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    • #32
      Re: Female players by state versus college hockey options

      I misread your intent when you said, "I think that the NCAA is moving into Canada?"
      Minnesota Golden Gopher Hockey

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      • #33
        Re: Female players by state versus college hockey options

        Originally posted by AggiesHockey View Post
        This is a quick view of hockey-playing girls & women by state, versus D1 programs within that state. I'm well aware that the rosters don't respect state or national boundaries. Nonetheless, I thought this would be interesting. Would be interesting to take a similar look at D3 programs by state.

        First column = state
        Second column = Female USA Hockey registrants (all age groups)
        Third column = number of D1 Women's hockey programs in state
        Fourth column = D1 programs per 1000 female players
        Fifth column lists the schools.

        MN 12,697 5 0.4 BSU, MSU, SCSU, UMD, UofM
        MA 9,564 5 0.5 BC, BU, Northeastern, Harvard, Holy Cross
        NY 5,477 8 1.5 Colgate, Cornell, SLU, Clarkson, RPI, Union, Syr., RIT
        MI 4,620 0 0.0
        WI 3,352 1 0.3 UW
        PA 2,715 3 1.1 Mercyhurst, RMU, PSU
        IL 2,543 0 0.0
        CT 2,482 4 1.2 Yale, Quinnipiac, Uconn, Sacred Heart
        CO 2,220 0 0.0
        AK 1,859 0 0.0
        CA 1,676 0 0.0
        VT 1,229 1 0.8 UVM
        NJ 1,194 1 0.8 Princeton
        ME 1,147 1 0.9 UMaine
        NH 1,142 2 1.8 Dartmouth, UNH
        ND 1,075 1 0.9 UND
        OH 1,065 1 0.9 OSU
        MD 933 0 0.0
        MT 873 0 0.0
        WA 814 0 0.0
        RI 796 2 2.5 PC, Brown
        FL 628 0 0.0
        VA 624 0 0.0
        ID 582 0 0.0
        MO 483 1 2.1 Lindenwood
        None of the remaining states have D1 programs.

        Looking at the D1 programs per 1000 female players, MN, MA, and WI are relatively under-served compared to other states where D1 programs exist. But all have good D3 opportunities available.

        MI & IL stick out. Several states have D1 programs, despite less female hockey participation.

        Tougher case for CO, AK, and CA given both lower numbers and geographic isolation relative to the main hockey centers in the US.
        Interesting.... However, your title should read D1 options. Nice work.

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        • #34
          Re: Female players by state versus college hockey options

          Originally posted by OnMAA View Post
          Here are the ready to post numbers...Breakdown by Province and State to follow later in the week.
          Bumping this up to remind myself to wizard up my data in the right format to post. (Sorry been busy with work, and on the road on the weekends, watching hockey. Priorities Eh !...Just about the head out for tonights game )

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          • #35
            Re: Female players by state versus college hockey options

            I did not double check my #'s but this should be close.

            Freshmen 2012-13..DI...DIII......All
            Minnesota.............27…..100…..127 ….. MN 12,697 5 0.4 BSU, MSU, SCSU, UMD, UofM
            Massachusetts.......12…...51…....63 ….. MA 9,564 5 0.5 BC, BU, Northeastern, Harvard, Holy Cross
            New York..............22…...29...….51 ….. NY 5,477 8 1.5 Colgate, Cornell, SLU, Clarkson, RPI, Union, Syr., RIT
            Wisconsin..............5…....28...….33 ….. WI 3,352 1 0.3 UW
            Michigan................7…....22......29 ….. MI 4,620 0 0.0
            Illinois...................8…....12...….20 ….. IL 2,543 0 0.0
            Pennsylvania…........6…....13...….19 ….. PA 2,715 3 1.1 Mercyhurst, RMU, PSU
            Colorado................6…....10...….16 ….. CO 2,220 0 0.0
            New Jersey…..........2…....13...….15 ….. NJ 1,194 1 0.8 Princeton
            California...............7…......7...….14 ….. CA 1,676 0 0.0
            Connecticut….........2…....12...….14 ….. CT 2,482 4 1.2 Yale, Quinnipiac, Uconn, Sacred Heart
            New Hampshire.......2…....11...….13 ….. NH 1,142 2 1.8 Dartmouth, UNH
            Ohio.....................5…......6…....11 ….. OH 1,065 1 0.9 OSU
            Maine...................0….....11......11 ….. ME 1,147 1 0.9 UMaine
            Vermont…..............1…......9......10 ….. VT 1,229 1 0.8 UVM
            Alaska...................4…......4.......8 ….. AK 1,859 0 0.0
            Rhode Island...........2…......5.......7 ….. RI 796 2 2.5 PC, Brown
            North Dakota..........1…......5.......6 ….. ND 1,075 1 0.9 UND
            Missouri…...............2…......3.......5 ….. MT 873 0 0.0
            Washington............3…......2.......5 ….. WA 814 0 0.0
            Maryland................1…......4.......5 ….. MD 933 0 0.0
            Texas....................3…......1.......4 ….. TX 694 0 0.0
            Virginia..................1….......3 …...4 ….. VA 624 0 0.0
            Arizona..................1….......3......4 ….. AZ 314 0 0.0
            Indiana..................0….......3......3 ….. IN 367 0 0.0
            North Carolina.........2….......1......3 ….. MO 483 1 2.1 Lindenwood
            Florida...................1….......2......3 ….. FL 628 0 0.0
            Georgia..................1….......1......2 ….. GA 164 0 0.0
            Iowa.....................1….......1 ......2 ….. IA 249 0 0.0
            Montana................0….......1 …....1 ….. MT 873 0 0.0
            South Dakota….......0….......1 ......1 ….. SD 423 0 0.0
            Utah.....................0….......1 …....1 ….. UT 417 0 0.0
            Delaware...............1….......0.......1….. DE 87 0 0.0
            Oklahoma..............1….......0.......1 ….. OK 36 0 0.0
            Wash. DC..............0….......1.......1 …..
            US Total............137…....376 ….513….. ID 582 0 0.0
            Canada...............89…......35 ….124….. First column = state
            Sweeden..............4…........5 …....9….. Second column = Female USA Hockey registrants (all age groups)
            Russia………….........2….. ......0….....2….. Third column = number of D1 Women's hockey programs in state
            Findland……...........1…........0 ….....1….. Fourth column = D1 programs per 1000 female players
            Denmark...............0…........1 ….....1….. Fifth column lists the schools.
            Japan ..................0…........1….....1….. Thank You AggiesHockey for the USA hockey #'s
            Italy…………...........1….........0….....1…..
            Germany...............1…........0 ......1…..
            Ouside US Total 98…........42…..140…..
            Total of All.........235…......418…..653…..
            Please excuse any speed errors, this is not official.

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            • #36
              Re: Female players by state versus college hockey options

              I know the U of MN recruits Minny girls first. What about the other similar state schools, do they also recruit from with in their home state first? (Wisconsin, N.Dakota, Ohio, Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, UConn,) Am I missing any others?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Call It View Post
                I know the U of MN recruits Minny girls first. What about the other similar state schools, do they also recruit from with in their home state first? (Wisconsin, N.Dakota, Ohio, Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, UConn,) Am I missing any others?
                Schools recruit the best players available without thought to their origins.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Hux View Post
                  Schools recruit the best players available without thought to their origins.
                  And Minnesota produces some outstanding talent. Many freshman having immediate impacts on their programs by my quick looks at stats.A bonus if you can recruit players from your backyard.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Female players by state versus college hockey options

                    Originally posted by Hux View Post
                    Schools recruit the best players available without thought to their origins.
                    As it should be. Where would MN be with out Amanda K? The reason I asked the question, I read the following on Lets Play Hockey

                    http://www.letsplayhockey.com/online...rb-brooks.html

                    As coach of the Golden Gophers, Brooks firmly believed that Minnesotans should make up the vast majority of players on the U of M roster. In fact, during his seven-year career at Minnesota, only two non-Minnesota natives lettered for the Gophers – James Gambucci (a player not recruited by Brooks) and James McCoy (who played three varsity games).

                    It was a system Brooks learned from his mentor and former coach at the University of Minnesota, John Mariucci.

                    Known as the godfather of hockey in Minnesota, Mariucci is largely credited with helping to establish the community-based system of hockey in this state.

                    After his professional playing career ended, Mariucci took the reins at the U of M, instituting a system of relying on home-grown players to fill the Gopher roster. In 12 seasons behind the bench, only six non-Minnesotans lettered for Mariucci’s teams.

                    “This is a state institution and should be represented by Minnesota boys,” Mariucci said. “If they’re not quite as good as some Canadians, we’ll just have to work a little harder, that’s all.”

                    His reliance on the Minnesota player was a major reason the game grew in his home state faster than anywhere else in the United States. A good indication of hockey’s growing popularity during Mariucci’s reign is how much the high school tournament grew. Attendance at the tournament increased from 15,523 in 1952 to 46,016 in 1966.

                    Recruiting Minnesotans to become Gophers shaped the way amateur hockey is organized today in Minnesota.


                    Mariucci envisioned a model whereby the youth hockey programs would feed their local high school teams, followed by high school hockey programs feeding the University of Minnesota (and later Minnesota Duluth, St. Cloud State, Minnesota State and Bemidji State).

                    It is this community-based system that Minnesota employs and enjoys today. And it’s almost exclusive to this state. For much of the rest of the country, amateur hockey is a club-based sport. You don’t play for your city. You play for a for-profit organization.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Female players by state versus college hockey options

                      Originally posted by GameWorn14 View Post
                      I did not double check my #'s but this should be close.

                      Freshmen 2012-13..DI...DIII......All
                      Minnesota.............27…..100…..127 ….. MN 12,697 5 0.4 BSU, MSU, SCSU, UMD, UofM
                      Massachusetts.......12…...51…....63 ….. MA 9,564 5 0.5 BC, BU, Northeastern, Harvard, Holy Cross
                      New York..............22…...29...….51 ….. NY 5,477 8 1.5 Colgate, Cornell, SLU, Clarkson, RPI, Union, Syr., RIT
                      Wisconsin..............5…....28...….33 ….. WI 3,352 1 0.3 UW
                      Michigan................7…....22......29 ….. MI 4,620 0 0.0
                      Illinois...................8…....12...….20 ….. IL 2,543 0 0.0
                      Pennsylvania…........6…....13...….19 ….. PA 2,715 3 1.1 Mercyhurst, RMU, PSU
                      Colorado................6…....10...….16 ….. CO 2,220 0 0.0
                      New Jersey…..........2…....13...….15 ….. NJ 1,194 1 0.8 Princeton
                      California...............7…......7...….14 ….. CA 1,676 0 0.0
                      Connecticut….........2…....12...….14 ….. CT 2,482 4 1.2 Yale, Quinnipiac, Uconn, Sacred Heart
                      New Hampshire.......2…....11...….13 ….. NH 1,142 2 1.8 Dartmouth, UNH
                      Ohio.....................5…......6…....11 ….. OH 1,065 1 0.9 OSU
                      Maine...................0….....11......11 ….. ME 1,147 1 0.9 UMaine
                      Vermont…..............1…......9......10 ….. VT 1,229 1 0.8 UVM
                      Alaska...................4…......4.......8 ….. AK 1,859 0 0.0
                      Rhode Island...........2…......5.......7 ….. RI 796 2 2.5 PC, Brown
                      North Dakota..........1…......5.......6 ….. ND 1,075 1 0.9 UND
                      Missouri…...............2…......3.......5 ….. MT 873 0 0.0
                      Washington............3…......2.......5 ….. WA 814 0 0.0
                      Maryland................1…......4.......5 ….. MD 933 0 0.0
                      Texas....................3…......1.......4 ….. TX 694 0 0.0
                      Virginia..................1….......3 …...4 ….. VA 624 0 0.0
                      Arizona..................1….......3......4 ….. AZ 314 0 0.0
                      Indiana..................0….......3......3 ….. IN 367 0 0.0
                      North Carolina.........2….......1......3 ….. MO 483 1 2.1 Lindenwood
                      Florida...................1….......2......3 ….. FL 628 0 0.0
                      Georgia..................1….......1......2 ….. GA 164 0 0.0
                      Iowa.....................1….......1 ......2 ….. IA 249 0 0.0
                      Montana................0….......1 …....1 ….. MT 873 0 0.0
                      South Dakota….......0….......1 ......1 ….. SD 423 0 0.0
                      Utah.....................0….......1 …....1 ….. UT 417 0 0.0
                      Delaware...............1….......0.......1….. DE 87 0 0.0
                      Oklahoma..............1….......0.......1 ….. OK 36 0 0.0
                      Wash. DC..............0….......1.......1 …..
                      US Total............137…....376 ….513….. ID 582 0 0.0
                      Canada...............89…......35 ….124….. First column = state
                      Sweeden..............4…........5 …....9….. Second column = Female USA Hockey registrants (all age groups)
                      Russia………….........2….. ......0….....2….. Third column = number of D1 Women's hockey programs in state
                      Findland……...........1…........0 ….....1….. Fourth column = D1 programs per 1000 female players
                      Denmark...............0…........1 ….....1….. Fifth column lists the schools.
                      Japan ..................0…........1….....1….. Thank You AggiesHockey for the USA hockey #'s
                      Italy…………...........1….........0…..... 1…..
                      Germany...............1…........0 ......1…..
                      Ouside US Total 98…........42…..140…..
                      Total of All.........235…......418…..653…..
                      Please excuse any speed errors, this is not official.
                      Are these number just the freshmen?

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                      • #41
                        Re: Female players by state versus college hockey options

                        Originally posted by Call It View Post
                        As it should be. Where would MN be with out Amanda K?
                        ...or Davie...Kelly T, Megan B, Mira...Noora, Maryanne...Baylee? In a very different place I imagine.

                        Shouts to Schou & Westy...and many who came before.
                        Minnesota Hockey

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                        • #42
                          Re: Female players by state versus college hockey options

                          Originally posted by canadahockey26 View Post
                          Are these number just the freshmen?
                          Yes.

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                          • #43
                            Re: Female players by state versus college hockey options

                            Lindenwood is in Missouri

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