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  • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    The ****tard who stole the election by railing about Goldman filled half his cabinet with them. LIes, lies, lies. Lies win. Lying wins.
    isn't it ironic?
    doncha think?
    a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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    • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

      Joltin' Joe may give it a go.

      Biden left the White House with a 61 percent approval rating and remains a popular Democratic figure.

      He has remained busy in public life since leaving the West Wing, overseeing his eponymous public service foundation and co-chairing the Biden Cancer Initiative.

      "Right now his focus is on the [Biden] Foundation and Cancer Moonshot, as well as getting other Democrats elected," his daughter said.

      It's unclear how Biden—who would be just shy of his 78th birthday on Election Day 2020—would fare against younger candidates. In May, Public Policy Polling said he would do better than any other Democrat in a hypothetical matchup against Trump in 2020, beating the incumbent 54 to 40 percent. The same survey showed Senators Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren would also defeat Trump, though by smaller margins.
      I respect Joe, but perhaps somebody within a half century in age of our young voters would be more prudent.
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      • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        Joltin' Joe may give it a go.



        I respect Joe, but perhaps somebody within a half century in age of our young voters would be more prudent.
        I'll vote for him if he gets the nomination but I will not support his candidacy before then. That makes me different than 50% of Democrats who will throw their own candidate under the bus to create "crisis in America" syndrome for 4-8 years.
        **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

        Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
        Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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        • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
          I'll vote for him if he gets the nomination but I will not support his candidacy before then. That makes me different than 50% of Democrats who will throw their own candidate under the bus to create "crisis in America" syndrome for 4-8 years.
          Its too late for Joe. But most Dems would support him. Rural blue dog democrats in the Midwest will probably not.
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          • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

            Seriously...she isnt running why the hell cant you all stop talking about her? Her book has zero relevance to the 2020 election.
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            • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

              Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
              But most Dems would support him. Rural blue dog democrats in the Midwest will probably not.
              Sure they would. He has a working class vibe that older lapsed Democrats respond to. The Echo Chamber would portray him as Saddam Hussein's gay lover, but the people who listen to Fox aren't the target; by self-selection they're content to be milked in their nascent iodine veal fattening pen (triple mixed metaphor). There are still millions of Average Joes who lack any ideology but want to be comfortable, which means identity. Having an avuncular Christian white man who genuinely likes to take pictures with waitresses at diners, and who doesn't make an as-s of himself every day on twitter, would make the nut. Throw in Kamala or Tammy as Veep to pander to The Kids.

              I believe he would take 400 EV minimum. We'd take back all the Lost Children of 2016 (OH, PA, WI, MI, IA) and have a decent shot at the purple peripherals (FL, NC). We certainly wouldn't lose anything by it.

              Plus, and don't sneeze at this, both Rover and I would be very happy with the choice, and between us we are virtually the entire party.
              Last edited by Kepler; 09-11-2017, 09:34 AM.
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              • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                Seriously...she isnt running why the hell cant you all stop talking about her? Her book has zero relevance to the 2020 election.
                Of course. Cause no one on the Democratic side ever learns anything from the previous election. That's why Kerry got destroyed after Gore. That's why the Nader effect happened again.

                I expect will see more of the same BS in 2020. Meanwhile they'll be a Supreme Court seat or something on the line and the Republicans will skate through again.
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                • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                  Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  Sure they would. He has a working class vibe that older lapsed Democrats respond to.
                  Not against this time. Trump still wins rural Michigan.
                  Go Gophers!

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                  • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                    Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                    Not against this time. Trump still wins rural Michigan.
                    You shut your d@mn dirty mouth!

                    Even though you're right on this one

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                    • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                      Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                      Not against this time. Trump still wins rural Michigan.
                      But suburban Michigan?

                      The gun fondlers and Pizzagaters are beyond help. The target are the people who go to Megachurches, eat fast food, and hold down mid-level grey-collar jobs. They're the ones who have been bent over and f-cked by the 1%. They're also the ones who have been brainwashed into fearing anybody who talks in language like "the 1%." So if you're Joe you talk about "Main Street not Wall Street," and "our crumbling infrastructure," and "reinvestment," and "paying back our vets for their sacrifices," and you make an emotional appeal for access to medical care. You stop people associating the Democratic party with smartypants Ivy Leaguers who care more about bathrooms and black power than jobs, and start them associating it with unions and small business and family farmers and The Little Guy.
                      Last edited by Kepler; 09-11-2017, 09:44 AM.
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                      • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        But suburban Michigan?

                        The gun fondlers and Pizzagaters are beyond help. The target are the people who go to Megachurches, eat fast food, and hold down mid-level grey-collar jobs. They're the ones who have been bent over and f-cked by the 1%. They're also the ones who have been brainwashed into fearing anybody who talks in language like "the 1%." So if you're Joe you talk about "Main Street not Wall Street," and "our crumbling infrastructure," and "reinvestment," and "paying back our vets for their sacrifices," and you make an emotional appeal for access to medical care. You stop people associating the Democratic party with smartypants Ivy Leaguers who care more about bathrooms and black power than jobs, and start them associating it with unions and small business and family farmers and The Little Guy.
                        Not sure that Democrats would have written off Michigan outside of the Detroit metro prior to 2016.

                        Biden may well do well in 2020 in suburban Detroit...but if so, so would many other candidates. Joe would have been a great 2016 candidate...just think 2020 is too late.
                        Go Gophers!

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                        • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                          Biden is far too old. Pick someone with a birthdate on or after my mom's (Jan. 8, 1955), please. 65 is a reasonable cutoff for serious 2020 candidates.

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                          • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                            Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                            Not sure that Democrats would have written off Michigan outside of the Detroit metro prior to 2016.

                            Biden may well do well in 2020 in suburban Detroit...but if so, so would many other candidates. Joe would have been a great 2016 candidate...just think 2020 is too late.
                            He may be too late, yes. But I think that absent age he's an ideal candidate.

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                            • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                              He may be too late, yes. But I think that absent age he's an ideal candidate.

                              "Get me a young Joe Biden!"
                              I remember liking Biden in 1988. Dukakis won. And in 2004 when Kerry won. I did like Kerry though. One of the few. He did a great job as Secretary of State. It's too late now.
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                              Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
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                              • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                                Joltin' Joe may give it a go.



                                I respect Joe, but perhaps somebody within a half century in age of our young voters would be more prudent.
                                Kep - it's Landslide Joe. If two years ago the Dem apparatchiks had known what a truly lousy a candidate HRC really was, Joe would have been the nominee, Hill the Veep, and 400 EVs would be low.
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