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West Regional - Fargo, ND - March 24th and 25th - tUMD, BU, UND, and tOSU
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Originally posted by Hockeybuckeye View PostLet revisit this. The referee EMPHATICALLY signaled a good goal. The standard on the review is there must be clear and indisputable proof that it was NOT a goal. This is where the issue becomes entirely different in that they are NOT reviewing to decide if there is clear evidence that the puck crossed over, rather they are reviewing to determine if it did NOT cross over which is an entirely different standard because it WAS ruled a good goal on the ice.
Now the camera view from the side was obstructed by a Duluth player so this only leaves the overhead. The next question is WHERE was the puck when the ref signaled goal? Another key point is the goaltender reached back and covered the puck with his glove and started to come forward out of the net and once the puck's view is obstructed what happens after is moot. I saw the same image over and over that everyone saw. What we did NOT see was the unobstructed view of the referee. I saw NO conclusive and indisputable evidence to overturn the original call as the puck was not in CLEAR VIEW the whole time.
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Re: West Regional - Fargo, ND - March 24th and 25th - tUMD, BU, UND, and tOSU
Originally posted by klbaum1077 View PostFrom the replay they showed us on the building I never saw the puck go in yea it might have been on his back but could u really tell his back was across the goal line? Just like the Duluth goal that got called back neither goal went in the net
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Originally posted by Hockeybuckeye View PostRemember the determining point by rule is because it was called a goal on the ice they had to determine that it did NOT cross the line and there was not enough of a clear video view to overturn the on ice call. Basically we got scr#wed.
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Re: West Regional - Fargo, ND - March 24th and 25th - tUMD, BU, UND, and tOSU
Originally posted by Hockeybuckeye View PostRemember the determining point by rule is because it was called a goal on the ice they had to determine that it did NOT cross the line and there was not enough of a clear video view to overturn the on ice call. Basically we got scr#wed.
Intuitively, it's *likely* that it didn't go in- so if the ref didn't call it- that would have never counted.
BUT- he called it a goal. And there was no view that showed that the puck didn't go in with enough certainty. Every shot blocked the puck large enough that it could have completely crossed the line. So I just don't understand how you reverse a call that you can't see at all.
Again, it's highly likely that the ref made a bad call, and it didn't go in. But the call was made and it REQUIRES a view showing that it didn't go in.
edit- even if it was a goal, that does not mean the game would have played out as it did. Anything could have happened. If it were the game winner in OT or late in the 3rd, then I would say OSU got screwed.Last edited by alfablue; 03-25-2017, 06:20 PM.
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Re: West Regional - Fargo, ND - March 24th and 25th - tUMD, BU, UND, and tOSU
Originally posted by klbaum1077 View PostI know exactly what your saying I just don't know how that saw either one of those picks ever go in
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Originally posted by Koho View PostAs an impartial observer. I could not see an unobstructed view of the puck showing that it DID NOT go in (player in way from side and player had glove on top of net from above) in the camera views they showed on TV. It seemed like from the position of the goalies back and where the puck had been on his back, that it probably didn't cross the line. But I DID NOT see evidence that clearly overturned the call on the ice, so was surprised it was called no goal. So while the outcome of the call was probably an accurate assessment of what actually happened, I think it was an incorrect call from the letter of the law and should have been left as a goal.
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Re: West Regional - Fargo, ND - March 24th and 25th - tUMD, BU, UND, and tOSU
Originally posted by Speed Kills View PostPretty foolish to assume that both Minnesota and Penn State without a doubt will not advance to the Frozen Four. This is typical of the obnoxious anti-Big Ten propaganda that I'm so sick and tired of."So life's a *****. What do you want to do, cry about it? " - Kara "Starbuck" Thrace
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Re: West Regional - Fargo, ND - March 24th and 25th - tUMD, BU, UND, and tOSU
Originally posted by Arafel View PostCare to revise that estimate on Minnesota?National championships won by Big Ten schools : 23 (Michigan 9, Wisconsin 6, Minnesota 5, Michigan State 3, Ohio State 0, Penn State 0, Notre Dame 0)
National championships won by NCHC schools : 21 (North Dakota 8, Denver 8, MN-Duluth 3, Colorado College 2, St. Cloud State 0, Miami 0, NE-Omaha 0, Western Michigan 0)
23 > 21
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Re: West Regional - Fargo, ND - March 24th and 25th - tUMD, BU, UND, and tOSU
Originally posted by klbaum1077 View PostI think they got but calls right but my question is how they ever saw the puck go in the net in the first place.
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