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  • Re: Detroit Tigers, Volume 9: The Carlos Guillen edition

    Rod Allen is on the panel that is hosting, in studio, for tonight's MLB Tonight broadcast. Interesting.
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      Kyle Lobstein has been DFA.
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      • Re: Detroit Tigers, Volume 9: The Carlos Guillen edition

        Originally posted by ShirtlessBob View Post
        Kyle Lobstein has been DFA.
        and traded.

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        • Re: Detroit Tigers, Volume 9: The Carlos Guillen edition

          Originally posted by streaker View Post
          and traded.
          Sold him, actually.

          He's bullpen depth. I believe he was a Rule V pick at one point.

          EDIT: He was a Rule V pick by the Mets in 2012, and we bought him from the Mets that day.
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          • Re: Detroit Tigers, Volume 9: The Carlos Guillen edition

            http://www.detroitnews.com/story/spo...gers/78635084/

            NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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            • Re: Detroit Tigers, Volume 9: The Carlos Guillen edition

              Tigers sign John Mayberry Jr. to a minor league deal. Nothing more than minor league depth. He makes Ryan Raburn look like Jimmy Foxx. He hasn't cracked .250 since 2011.
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              • Re: Detroit Tigers, Volume 9: The Carlos Guillen edition

                Originally posted by Hammer View Post
                http://www.detroitnews.com/story/spo...gers/78635084/

                NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                This team will have enough talent to tease fans, but not enough for this fan to spend money to see it. I don't understand why Ilitch melted down and blew things up. I'd rather go watch the Mudhens then the sh1tshow in DTW this summer. Pretty sad when they have to resort to bringing back players that were basically run out of town before.

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                  How did they "blow things up"? They weren't winning anything last year and there was no way they'd have the money resign Cespedes and Price. I'm not sure what else they were supposed to do.
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                  • Re: Detroit Tigers, Volume 9: The Carlos Guillen edition

                    This team fell out of contention the day Miggy pulled up lame in mid-July. They had no choice but to fire sale in July and re-tool. More or less, DD made chicken salad at the deadline.

                    I've said it before. Ilitch likes his stars. The checkbook isn't going to be closed as long as he's alive. But after he goes....look out below.

                    That's why I would not be surprised in the least if there's one more big signing made to shore up LF.
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                      Oh, and BTW, the Mud Hens were borderline unwatchable last year.
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                      • Re: Detroit Tigers, Volume 9: The Carlos Guillen edition

                        Watched Baseball Seasons 1987. Was reminded of the Doyle Alexander for prospect John Smoltz trade.

                        Doyle was crazy good for the Tigers down the stretch. But tough to think of having Smoltz for the next 15 yrs.
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                          John Smoltz was a mediocre prospect at the time. In 1987 he wound up 4-11 with a 5.73 ERA in AA between the Detroit and Atlanta organizations. He was a 22nd round draft pick. At the time he wasn't regarded highly, and the Tigers were in a position to win RIGHT NOW!!

                          Here's John Smoltz's stat lines in the minors

                          The 1987 Tigers were on their last legs. 1988 was their last run, and that year they collapsed in September, ending up 1 game behind Boston. Tom Monaghan did a very, very poor job of funding the farm system from the get-go when he bought the team in late 1983. Jim Campbell, the long time GM, was kicked upstairs to team president, and the farm system tanked from there. Too many Scott Livingstones and Jim Walewanders and not enough Travis Frymans.

                          There are a lot of similarities between the 1968 & 1972 Tigers and the 1984 & 1987-88 Tigers. After 1972 and 1988 the teams suffered from very poor farm systems for quite some time, and there were long droughts between successful seasons in each instance.

                          We're not far from being on the bottom end of this curve again in a few years.
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                          • Re: Detroit Tigers, Volume 9: The Carlos Guillen edition

                            Originally posted by Hammer View Post
                            Oh, and BTW, the Mud Hens were borderline unwatchable last year.
                            That was my point.

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                            • Re: Detroit Tigers, Volume 9: The Carlos Guillen edition

                              Originally posted by MaizeRage View Post
                              How did they "blow things up"? They weren't winning anything last year and there was no way they'd have the money resign Cespedes and Price. I'm not sure what else they were supposed to do.
                              When did they implement a salary cap? I'm being sarcastic, but the fire sale was a desperate move to gather as many young chips as possible because of the risk of losing these guys to FA and not getting anything. I get it, but for all the blather about wanting to win, Illitch dumps DD but complained about not winning when he knew what he was up against with payroll. It's comical.
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                              • Re: Detroit Tigers, Volume 9: The Carlos Guillen edition

                                Originally posted by Hammer View Post
                                This team fell out of contention the day Miggy pulled up lame in mid-July. They had no choice but to fire sale in July and re-tool. More or less, DD made chicken salad at the deadline.

                                I've said it before. Ilitch likes his stars. The checkbook isn't going to be closed as long as he's alive. But after he goes....look out below.

                                That's why I would not be surprised in the least if there's one more big signing made to shore up LF.
                                We'll see.

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