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  • Re: POTUS 45.18 - Who Run Derpertown? McMasterBlaster Run Derpertown.

    Originally posted by Gurtholfin View Post
    "Fry like bacon" can be inflammatory.

    "Cops should be held legally responsible for unlawful killings" cannot be inflammatory.


    Anyone with half a brain can see the difference.

    The first is inflammatory to those who may or may not have a learning disability, sure

    Originally posted by Gurtholfin View Post
    I agree with all of that and support the BLM movement, if not all of their tactics.

    I'm only speaking to what I remember as Trixie's bias from the Ferguson threads. He wasn't objective on this matter.
    Yes we know you're still butt hurt about that, never forget!

    Not making a ton of racist assumptions about Mike Brown's motives meant I was being biased.

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    • Re: POTUS 45.18 - Who Run Derpertown? McMasterBlaster Run Derpertown.

      Originally posted by Gurtholfin View Post
      "Fry like bacon" can be inflammatory
      "Fry like bacon" is awful.

      Acting like a majority of BLM says stuff like that is ignorant.
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      • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        Holding bad cops accountable for when they indiscriminately murder unarmed and innocent people is not "hating." Good cops should be against those bad cops, too.

        The problem is that far too often good cops reflexively defend bad cops no matter what horrific sh-t they've done out of misplaced loyalty and solidarity. This is exactly what happens when minority communities defend gangs, soldiers defend rapists and murderers in their ranks, and the Church defends pedophiles. Blind loyalty is ape behavior.

        Now add that conservative political correctness dictates it is anathema to ever criticize the police, and we wind up with the accusation of "cop hating."
        Couldn't agree more with this post. The good cops need to wake up.
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        • Re: POTUS 45.18 - Who Run Derpertown? McMasterBlaster Run Derpertown.

          Originally posted by Gurtholfin View Post
          I agree with all of that and support the BLM movement, if not all of their tactics.

          I'm only speaking to what I remember as Trixie's bias from the Ferguson threads. He wasn't objective on this matter.
          OK, that's between you two. Thank you for giving my post a fair reading. I'll have you know I started out being more of an ironic punk but rewrote it because I didn't want to just be a dick like usual. Baby steps.
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          • Re: POTUS 45.18 - Who Run Derpertown? McMasterBlaster Run Derpertown.

            Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
            Couldn't agree more with this post. The good cops need to wake up.
            Thank you, sincerely.
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            • Re: POTUS 45.18 - Who Run Derpertown? McMasterBlaster Run Derpertown.

              Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
              The first is inflammatory to those who may or may not have a learning disability, sure



              Yes we know you're still butt hurt about that, never forget!

              Not making a ton of racist assumptions about Mike Brown's motives meant I was being biased.

              Lol.

              Never change Trixie.

              Not butt hurt - just saying I know you and your obvious bias.

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              • Re: POTUS 45.18 - Who Run Derpertown? McMasterBlaster Run Derpertown.

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                "Fry like bacon" is awful.

                Acting like a majority of BLM says stuff like that is ignorant.
                Personally I don't think this is the best tactic or choice of words. Even if you take my interpretation, which is entirely reasonable, you're still implying all cops are pigs. That part is definitely bad and not gonna get the good cops on your side.

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                • Re: POTUS 45.18 - Who Run Derpertown? McMasterBlaster Run Derpertown.

                  Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  "Fry like bacon" is awful.

                  Acting like a majority of BLM says stuff like that is ignorant.

                  I didn't say they did.

                  I'm only speaking to Trixie being okay with it and not seeing that it could be inflammatory to certain ears.

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                  • Re: POTUS 45.18 - Who Run Derpertown? McMasterBlaster Run Derpertown.

                    Originally posted by Gurtholfin View Post
                    I didn't say they did.

                    I'm only speaking to Trixie being okay with it and not seeing that it could be inflammatory to certain ears.
                    I apologize for jumping to conclusions. I was reacting to prior statements by others and I lumped you in unfairly.

                    BLM and antifa are following similar arcs. You start with a horrible tragedy. A movement arises to bring public attention to a broad problem which particular tragedies spring from (police racial profiling; the rise of neo-fascism). A very small fringe of the group says/does inflammatory/violent things. The rightwing media deliberately portrays this fringe as the essence of the group and their viewers and readers now angrily oppose a strawman representation of the broader and highly laudable group. This in turn emboldens the bad actors who created the original problem, which then bolsters the position of the bad reacting actors, which leads to more conflicts, which reinforces the narrative... a vicious cycle.

                    That's how good groups are discredited and destroyed. In the past that's been an effective strategy by the government when it wants to attack certain groups (unions, anti-war, civil rights, Occupy) but in these recent cases I don't think there's any organized conspiracy. I'm sure there are particular agents provocateur who think they're playing 3D chess, but I suspect those are lone wolves or at most instigated by turd gobblers like Brietbart or Project Veritas.
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                    • Re: POTUS 45.18 - Who Run Derpertown? McMasterBlaster Run Derpertown.

                      Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
                      Were any US citizens illegally detained? I still haven't gotten a clear answer on that. I support all US citizens' rights.
                      Umm, yeah. Do a little research.

                      But then again, you don't care about facts, you said so yourself.
                      What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                      • Re: POTUS 45.18 - Who Run Derpertown? McMasterBlaster Run Derpertown.

                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        I apologize for jumping to conclusions. I was reacting to prior statements by others and I lumped you in unfairly.

                        That happens a lot in this thread.

                        This can lean towards being a liberal echo chamber.


                        And that coming from a liberal.

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                        • Re: POTUS 45.18 - Who Run Derpertown? McMasterBlaster Run Derpertown.

                          Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
                          Were any US citizens illegally detained? I still haven't gotten a clear answer on that. I support all US citizens' rights.
                          Dr. Mrs works with immigration lawyers for DHS.

                          The short answer is "yes." The long answer is "for a while the incidents were fairly rare but they have accelerated and gotten far more extreme. Also, previously the events were typically a result of either pure misunderstanding or specific rogue ICE and CBP agents with reactionary/racist personal views, but in the past year a pattern of official misconduct has developed."

                          The bottom line is it's bad, it's getting worse, and everyone should be worried because we're seeing something happening that is not rule of law but rather rule of ideological triggers. It's scary as sh-t.
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                          • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            Dr. Mrs works with immigration lawyers for DHS.

                            The short answer is "yes." The long answer is "for a while the incidents were fairly rare but they have accelerated and gotten far more extreme. Also, previously the events were typically a result of either pure misunderstanding or specific rogue ICE and CBP agents with reactionary/racist personal views, but in the past year a pattern of official misconduct has developed."

                            The bottom line is it's bad, it's getting worse, and everyone should be worried because we're seeing something happening that is not rule of law but rather rule of ideological triggers. It's scary as sh-t.
                            That's very disappointing to read. There should be serious repercussions for mistreating a US citizen. I'm not saying illegals should be mistreated or it's even acceptable, but it's more of a gray area as far as detaining them.

                            To expand on your earlier post, it should be unsettling to people the police/policing is turning into a left-right issue. I can't see where any good will come of that.
                            Originally posted by BobbyBrady
                            Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year

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                            • Re: POTUS 45.18 - Who Run Derpertown? McMasterBlaster Run Derpertown.

                              Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
                              To expand on your earlier post, it should be unsettling to people the police/policing is turning into a left-right issue. I can't see where any good will come of that.
                              It's happened before, in the 1890s and the 1960s, when the police were extremely to the right of the gen pop and they were used as ideological shock troops to stifle dissent. It happens locally everyday in a thousand little incidents, and then every month or so there is a larger incident. In this the cops are typically just as much the victims as the poor they are sent to hassle. This is where class war actually happens in America, which is better than the military, but certainly still highly oppressive.

                              One problem now is that the country is starting to divide politically along economic lines: the super rich and the white poor vs everybody else. Since the police have traditionally been drawn disproportionately from the white poor, they are starting to also diverge politically and turn into a politically reactionary element of society. This is... suboptimal. We need a large influx of minority LEO to keep it from turning into the armed branch of Fox News.
                              Last edited by Kepler; 08-31-2017, 10:24 AM.
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                              • Re: POTUS 45.18 - Who Run Derpertown? McMasterBlaster Run Derpertown.

                                So, hear all the time from Republicans that giving tax cuts spurs business. Well, based on a little fact from an article today I call BS. BS BS BS BS BS.

                                Many economists believe it is not that simple. They argue that large corporate tax cuts would do relatively little — particularly in the near term — to boost wages or create jobs. Instead, they would boost corporate profits and benefit the wealthiest Americans who own the most corporate stock. There is little evidence that large tax cuts will prompt American corporations to invest more; they are already sitting on nearly $2 trillion in cash.
                                https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/30/u...imes&smtyp=cur

                                People are suffering and they are SITTING. SITTING on over 2 trillion dollars in cash. Money that is DOING NOTHING for the economy.

                                Article talks about Trump and his "Cut taxes speech" in Missouri last night. Congress should just SAY NO.
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