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  • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

    Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
    I don't think that's true, if you show them that it works and it helps them it's a winning issue. It's gotten incredibly popular and even a lot of people on the right want to see healthcare reformed in some way and we've seen the dems move further left on this exact issue in recent times.

    A watered down version of ACA where you just fine people who don't buy something that already costs too much and has some obscene deductible didn't really help all that much. Now I get that the pre-existing condition portion, getting rid of plan maximums, and some of the other provisions of it were good and did help a lot of people but it's not hard to see why this compromise didn't make voters happy considering how much power the dems had at the time.
    Yeah, but that's what they couldn't help doing. It had to be paid for. The Republicans can always add to the debt. The Democrats can't. Another dynamic that makes no sense. Since it had to be paid for people really got to see how much pre-existing conditions cost because we all started to pay for them instead of just letting the families go bankrupt.
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      The fact that the ACA is now more popular when its threatened with repeal vs when it was enacted proves that voters are idiots. Mind you that's not a campaign slogan you can run on but if people are now so concerned with maintaining the law, they should have shown up during the 2010, 2014 and 2016 elections. Yes, the public option isn't in there but its an extraordinarily liberal law in terms of mandating insurance companies spend 80% of premiums on care, can't deny due to pre-existing conditions, massive expansion of Medicaid, out of pocket maximums, no lifetime limits, etc etc etc. Also paid for by higher taxes on the rich, most likely the real reason Republicans hate it.
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        Originally posted by Rover View Post
        they should have shown up during the 2010, 2014 and 2016 elections
        Plenty of blame for the DNC for ramming through the nomination of corporate toadies, identity princesses, and party apparatchiks.

        Companies that blame the customer for not buying their sh-tty product go out of business.

        Nobody wants to buy the old CorporateDem crap anymore. The Dems thrive when they are a real left party, and they die when they are Republican Lite.
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          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
          Plenty of blame for the DNC for ramming through the nomination of corporate toadies, identity princesses, and party apparatchiks.

          Companies that blame the customer for not buying their sh-tty product go out of business.

          Nobody wants to buy the old CorporateDem crap anymore. The Dems thrive when they are a real left party, and they die when they are Republican Lite.
          Yet the Republicans continue to feed their voters a **** sandwich and they keep coming back for more.
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            I don't think it's more popular now, I just think more people were forced to actually pay attention after Trump got elected unfortunately. But I can't really blame people for being mad about how the whole process of getting ACA in the first place and what it left out. And for being ****ed at dems for royally screwing up when they had the power to do something more substantial especially when it happened because of corporate dems like Liebermann selling out.
            Last edited by trixR4kids; 01-10-2018, 03:19 PM.

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              Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
              Yet the Republicans continue to feed their voters a **** sandwich and they keep coming back for more.
              The natural constituency of the GOP is 30% of the 60% of people who currently vote: 18% of eligible voters. The other 82% are all up for grabs. Literally half of those people do not vote because the choice between the two corporate parties is so loathsome.

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                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                Plenty of blame for the DNC for ramming through the nomination of corporate toadies, identity princesses, and party apparatchiks.

                Companies that blame the customer for not buying their sh-tty product go out of business.

                Nobody wants to buy the old CorporateDem crap anymore. The Dems thrive when they are a real left party, and they die when they are Republican Lite.
                This is stupid on multiple levels. If you need a product, and only two companies sell it, you either choose the best one or you suffer. Too many lefties chose suffering, and now they're sitting around with their thumbs up their arses trying to figure out how total GOP control of the government is a bad idea when they were all told there was no difference between the parties so it was okay to vote Trump or stay home.

                So, to reiterate, I will take my extra tax cuts and laugh all the way to the bank. In the meantime, I've got enviros crying because coal and fracking are back in vogue, stoners crying over the crackdown on pot, anti-plutes crying because of massive tax giveaways to the rich, and all the time they're thinking...if only there was SOME WAY to have prevented this from happening????? Either the left can wake up and participate in elections, or they can lose. Its not any more complicated than that and if the nominees up and down the ballot are "corporate toadies, identity princesses, and party apparatchiks" but will vote mostly for the policies we want, you can either get your head out of your rear end and support them, or continue to watch the .1% take everything that's not nailed down. Your choice Kep.
                Last edited by Rover; 01-10-2018, 03:28 PM.
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                • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                  Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  The natural constituency of the GOP is 30% of the 60% of people who currently vote: 18% of eligible voters. The other 82% are all up for grabs. Literally half of those people do not vote because the choice between the two corporate parties is so loathsome.

                  Save democracy; save the world.
                  Good luck with that. Obama was about as aspirational a figure that I've ever seen and he epic failed when you add up the numbers.
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                    Originally posted by Rover View Post
                    This is stupid on multiple levels. If you need a product, and only two companies sell it, you either choose the best one or you suffer. Too many lefties chose suffering, and now they're sitting around with their thumbs up their arses trying to figure out how total GOP control of the government is a bad idea when they were all told there was no difference between the parties so it was okay to vote Trump or stay home.

                    So, to reiterate, I will take my extra tax cuts and laugh all the way to the bank. In the meantime, I've got enviros crying because coal and fracking are back in vogue, stoners crying over the crackdown on pot, anti-plutes crying because of massive tax giveaways to the rich, and all the time they're thinking...if only there was SOME WAY to have prevented this from happening????? Either the left can wake up and participate in elections, or they can lose. Its not any more complicated than that and if the nominees up and down the ballot are "corporate toadies, identity princesses, and party apparatchiks" but will vote mostly for the policies we want, you can either get your head out of your read end and support them, or continue to watch the .1% take everything that's not nailed down. Your choice Kep.
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                    Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                    Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                    • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                      Originally posted by Rover View Post
                      However the overall point is a good one which is its better to pass laws than executive orders.
                      Yup.
                      And it feels more Constitutionally procedural too.

                      That whole "make laws, enforce laws, review laws" three-legged stool thing ...
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                      • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        Literally half of those people do not vote because the choice between the two corporate parties is so loathsome.
                        I got in trouble for saying that not long ago.
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                        • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                          Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
                          I got in trouble for saying that not long ago.
                          As I recall you got in trouble because you were using it for false equivalency and to whitewash the sh-tshow the GOP has become.

                          The Democrats are rickets. The Republicans are ebola. Now, sure, of the two, I'll take rickets.

                          But I'd rather be healthy.

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                            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            As I recall you got in trouble because you were using it for false equivalency and to whitewash the sh-tshow the GOP has become.

                            The Democrats are rickets. The Republicans are ebola. Now, sure, of the two, I'll take rickets.

                            But I'd rather be healthy.
                            Not sure if this is true everywhere to this extent, but if so its likely in part perpetuated on all sides.

                            DFL government in MN has done a masterful job of eliminating this hierarchy and creating a cooperative among all these groups. Each serves a valuable role in society and plays it well...and each is benefiting mightily here:

                            Minneapolis tops list of US cities with best average credit score: Experian

                            https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...cr/1021764001/

                            1. Minneapolis MN 709
                            2. Rochester MN 708
                            3. Mankato MN 708

                            Having said that, I'm not sure about our new Minneapolis Mayor Frey. He's from the east coast and is talking much more like an old school socialist than a true enlightened collaborator.
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                            • Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                              Minneapolis tops list of US cities with best average credit score:
                              Uh...good for you?

                              Seriously, that's literally the first time I've ever seen someone get into a dick measuring contest over credit scores.

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                                Originally posted by unofan View Post
                                Uh...good for you?

                                Seriously, that's literally the first time I've ever seen someone get into a dick measuring contest over credit scores.
                                Coming up a little short on your credit score?
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