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  • Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

    Originally posted by unofan View Post
    No, in fact you're cheering them on for making voting harder.
    We could've just saved ourselves like 3 pages of posts if he just said he's cynically for it because it'll help his side

    Originally posted by TalonsUpPuckDown View Post
    I spend most of my time lurking in the Cafe, thought as an Ohio guy I'd add one tidbit to the mix that hasn't been discussed, that being the rules aren't being applied evenly across the state. Purging of the roles in counties with lots of guys named Billy Ray Jim Bob has not been happening with equal frequency as in counties with lots of people with the last name of Jackson. With this law now codified, the party in power (Republican or Democrat) has a weapon to selectively pick and choose who gets to vote. To me, THAT's the issue, not whether some dotard skipped out on voting in the past 3 elections.

    Back to the sidelines.
    Right, there was a Reuters article that showed the impact was mainly in Cleveland, Cinci, and other dem strongholds with a lot of black voters.

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    • Originally posted by GrinCDXX View Post
      Nobody's complaining that they don't magically appear. We are complaining that people who pretend to believe in American ideals actively prevent progress from being made toward them (and in fact push us further away).
      Mookie just 'splainin' that your ideals are not "American". Sufferage has been limited for 250 years and obviously in the back of the heads of the founders (original intent )
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      • Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

        Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
        Mookie just 'splainin' that your ideals are not "American". Sufferage has been limited for 250 years and obviously in the back of the heads of the founders (original intent )
        Weight the vote by GRE score and may the smarter side win. Problem solved.
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        • Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

          Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
          Mookie just 'splainin' that your ideals are not "American". Sufferage has been limited for 250 years and obviously in the back of the heads of the founders (original intent )
          I disagree- given the progression of voting rights in this country, it's pretty clear that equal opportunity voting IS being American, as we've been altering the laws to project that since the Constitution was signed.

          Just because the founders didn't fully come up with the idea does not mean that it's not an American ideal.

          Remember the guy who famously wrote that all men are created equal was a slave holder. So does that mean that it's not an American ideal? Heck, we didn't have actual laws that forced everyone to treat each other equally until the 1960's.

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          • Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

            Originally posted by alfablue View Post
            Remember the guy who famously wrote that all men are created equal was a slave holder.
            Not to mention the little matter of it being all "men" being equal.

            The Founders excluded from voting, explicitly or in practice:

            Women
            The Poors
            Slaves
            Native Americans
            Atheists
            Prisoners

            Which amounted to about 95% of the population at the time of the Revolution.
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            • Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

              SCOTUS punts on the gerrymandering cases. For ****s sake.

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                Originally posted by GrinCDXX View Post
                SCOTUS punts on the gerrymandering cases. For ****s sake.
                5-4. What did you expect? They're not hiding it anymore.
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                Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                • Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                  5-4. What did you expect? They're not hiding it anymore.
                  Maryland was heavily gerrymandered for the Democrats.

                  The court appears reluctant(!) to intrude on a political question. However, I think this is a shot across the bows of the legislatures for the 2020 reapportionment. Go overboard again and SCOTUS will rule.

                  On a sad note, I believe the Maryland Ds will go whole hog in 2020 and disenfranchise every R. They're that partisan. Hogan will be term limited and the Ds will put a tame lap dog in the State House who will do what Senate President Mike Miller wants.

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                  • Originally posted by joecct View Post
                    Maryland was heavily gerrymandered for the Democrats.

                    The court appears reluctant(!) to intrude on a political question. However, I think this is a shot across the bows of the legislatures for the 2020 reapportionment. Go overboard again and SCOTUS will rule.

                    On a sad note, I believe the Maryland Ds will go whole hog in 2020 and disenfranchise every R. They're that partisan. Hogan will be term limited and the Ds will put a tame lap dog in the State House who will do what Senate President Mike Miller wants.

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                    What about Lozeman?
                    In one breath you minimize the issue as simply a "political question" and in the next say R's are being disenfranchised. Seems like a question that goes to the very core of our democratic system.

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                    • Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

                      Originally posted by joecct View Post
                      Maryland was heavily gerrymandered for the Democrats.

                      The court appears reluctant(!) to intrude on a political question. However, I think this is a shot across the bows of the legislatures for the 2020 reapportionment. Go overboard again and SCOTUS will rule.

                      On a sad note, I believe the Maryland Ds will go whole hog in 2020 and disenfranchise every R. They're that partisan. Hogan will be term limited and the Ds will put a tame lap dog in the State House who will do what Senate President Mike Miller wants.

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                      What about Lozeman?
                      As opposed to what R's are doing on other states....

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                      • Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

                        Originally posted by GrinCDXX View Post
                        In one breath you minimize the issue as simply a "political question" and in the next say R's are being disenfranchised. Seems like a question that goes to the very core of our democratic system.
                        Why is that a surprise?
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                        Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                        Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                        • Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

                          Originally posted by GrinCDXX View Post
                          SCOTUS punts on the gerrymandering cases. For ****s sake.
                          If only there was something we could have done to get that 5th vote...
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                          • Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

                            Originally posted by joecct View Post
                            Maryland was heavily gerrymandered for the Democrats.

                            The court appears reluctant(!) to intrude on a political question. However, I think this is a shot across the bows of the legislatures for the 2020 reapportionment. Go overboard again and SCOTUS will rule.

                            On a sad note, I believe the Maryland Ds will go whole hog in 2020 and disenfranchise every R. They're that partisan. Hogan will be term limited and the Ds will put a tame lap dog in the State House who will do what Senate President Mike Miller wants.

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                            • Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

                              Gerrymandering is one of those issues where every voter should mobilize against both parties. When representatives can choose their voters the entire American democracy falls to ruin.

                              Removing partisan politics from drawing districts is a bare minimum requirement for a working democracy.
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                              • Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

                                Originally posted by Rover View Post
                                If only there was something we could have done to get that 5th vote...
                                Nothing you can do when that ***** goes out and steals the primary. Lock her up.
                                **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                                Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                                Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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