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Originally posted by TonyTheTiger20 View PostIdk the Crusades were pretty bad lol... I would imagine you would have a problem with a college team naming themselves ISIS.
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Originally posted by CrossCheck View Postlol. As I recall [and I admit I learned my history before our education system was destroyed]...the Crusaders were the ones responding to what the peace-loving muslims [sort of the pre-ISIS folks] were doing...not the other way around.
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ya, let both play in ECAC. with Merrimack being added already and now HC and (who is Sacred Heart?) Don't get me wrong, Merrimack got up to speed very quickly but it will be a while for HC or WHO? to duplicate that. just another crumb for the west to eat up when posting how easy the schedule is. it gets old fast.
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Originally posted by Quiet Riot View Postya, let both play in ECAC. with Merrimack being added already and now HC and (who is Sacred Heart?) Don't get me wrong, Merrimack got up to speed very quickly but it will be a while for HC or WHO? to duplicate that. just another crumb for the west to eat up when posting how easy the schedule is. it gets old fast.
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Originally posted by hockeymakesmebroke View PostI think you are going to be very wrong about the strength of both of these programs. Both have done a lot of recruiting and they will give some teams a battle. Of course, time will tell if this is true or not, but if you're implying that they are fodder for Brown, Dartmouth, Harvard, Yale and Rensselaer I'm going to say no. Clarkston and Colgate yes, they are certainly a cut above at this point, but the others not so much.
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Originally posted by Sieve1 View PostAgree. Don’t forget- as a D3 team Holy Cross shut out Harvard last season, without a single D1 recruit on their roster.CCT '77 & '78
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Originally posted by joecct View PostHoly Cross has never been and never will be a D3 team. They are classified as D1 (FCS) in all sports.
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Originally posted by Quiet Riot View Postya, let both play in ECAC. with Merrimack being added already and now HC and (who is Sacred Heart?) Don't get me wrong, Merrimack got up to speed very quickly but it will be a while for HC or WHO? to duplicate that. just another crumb for the west to eat up when posting how easy the schedule is. it gets old fast.
Holy Cross will be okay. Sacred Heart will be okay. What BC needs is for someone to become almost as good as the Eagles, so they have to break a sweat before March. Ideally that would be a HEA team, but improvement by Harvard would also help. UMD and St. Lawrence will provide competition in some years -- probably not in 2018 -- but those games occur so early in the season."... And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;" -- Rudyard Kipling
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Originally posted by ARM View PostIt's not BC's fault. I'm not sure what they could do, short of telling recruits, "We'd love to have you on our roster, but what would really help us is if you'd go to UNH so that they can become a powerhouse once again."
Holy Cross will be okay. Sacred Heart will be okay. What BC needs is for someone to become almost as good as the Eagles, so they have to break a sweat before March. Ideally that would be a HEA team, but improvement by Harvard would also help. UMD and St. Lawrence will provide competition in some years -- probably not in 2018 -- but those games occur so early in the season.
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Originally posted by EastFan1 View PostHave to wait for the schedules, but because the last place and second-to-last place HE teams both had success at Ridder last year, I would expect Holy Cross will have a decent chance of early season success if Minnesota picked them up.
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Originally posted by shelfit View PostI think what he meant was that they've always played D3/D2 schedule. They've always been very strong with that type of schedule and they've always been very successful in terms of wins and losses. I think their transition to D1 hockey is not going to be that hard. They are already better than several D1 teams.
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Originally posted by hockeymakesmebroke View PostHC will be alright, they had 1 goal games last season with Dartmouth, Harvard and RIT without really recruiting. Coach Lachapelle was very active in recruiting last season. She may be the heir apparent at HC so was probably given some tools to help recruit. As for Sacred Heart, they too did more recruiting than they have in the past. Biggest issue I see there is their Independent status. If they could get into a conference it would strengthen their schedule and be better for them as well as women's hockey in general as it creates more opportunities for girls to play.
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Originally posted by CrossCheck View Post...I think you could say that about several D3 teams [i.e. better than several D1 teams]. Platty, Norwich, Elmira, Adrian and the top of the nescac come to mind. I never considered HC anything special when they were D2.
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Originally posted by HockeyEast33 View PostThis is an old argument, but I totally disagree. 10+ years ago the top D3 teams could regularly beat D1 teams, but that is an absolute pipe dream nowadays. Even Bill Mandigo, who used to recruit using this story, has given up on that illusion. As an example at the top of the D3 heap, a piece of what has made Plattsburgh successful over the years is D1 transfers (such as Erin Brand, who came from Syracuse after 1.5 seasons and barely played there). These players typically end up being one of the best players on the Plattsburgh team but couldn't get a regular shift on a middling or weak D1 team. So you're telling me a team that has a cast off player from a weak D1 program as one its best players can compete regularly with D1 teams? You are dreaming. This is a story that D1 wannabes tell themselves when they can't get a spot at a D1 school. Might they win a game once on the strength of crazy goaltending or luck? Sure, maybe, but regularly - not a chance.
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