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  • #661
    Re: climate change times are a changin'

    Originally posted by JF_Gophers View Post
    Maybe all of these issues are just natural selection at work.
    Sounds familiar.
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    • #662
      Re: climate change times are a changin'

      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      Everything is stochastic.
      W. T. F. does that even mean in the current context?

      "randomly determined; having a random probability distribution or pattern that may be analyzed statistically but may not be predicted precisely" doesn't quite seem to fit what you seem to be trying to say.
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      • #663
        Re: climate change times are a changin'

        Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
        W. T. F. does that even mean in the current context?

        "randomly determined; having a random probability distribution or pattern that may be analyzed statistically but may not be predicted precisely" doesn't quite seem to fit what you seem to be trying to say.
        'Course it does. You tried to sideline what is obviously an argument about tendencies with the "refutation by single example" canard. Everything about human behavior comes with a flotilla of YMMV and SSS caveats. But you know that. Again, you have to up your game if you want to last here -- you're not on Freep or Redstate anymore.

        Now, if you want to return to a sincere discussion, we were getting somewhere. (If you want to play the noise machine game that's fine too but life's too short for me to waste my typing on it.) As I said below, I think basic political orientation is a personality quirk. Both leftist and rightist narratives have some validity, but certain people are magnetized to one pole or the other. This is fascinating, because unlike say preferring vanilla or chocolate, political ideas appear to the self to be rational, or at least groping attempts to generalize from observation and logic. The other part that's interesting is political ideas are themselves not trivial matters of taste in their consequences -- it really does matter in the real world whether we adopt a certain policy or not. So here we've got the conjunction of ideas that are rational and non-arbitrary being held for irrational and arbitrary reasons. I can't really think of another case (if I were a religious believer, then religious conviction would be the obvious other case).
        Last edited by Kepler; 11-19-2014, 04:42 PM.
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        • #664
          Re: climate change times are a changin'

          the abortion issue is NOT if life begins at conception. obviously it does or the cells would not divide amd grow. that's the hard science you like to talk about. the question is more when does that life become viable, or when does it become "human". and the death penalty is not a liberal / conservative issue, its more like a power of the state to kill issue. not an issue you can easily put into one side or the other.
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          • #665
            Re: climate change times are a changin'

            Jeebus fking christ.

            Take it to another thread.
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            Originally posted by Kepler
            When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
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            • #666
              Re: climate change times are a changin'

              Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
              Jeebus fking christ.

              Take it to another thread.
              I've been know to sidetrack threads, but this one is on the off ramp to nowhere.
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              • #667
                Re: climate change times are a changin'

                sorry, I thought we were veering into another subject. you know how we usually stay right on topic. sorry to have drifted off.
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                • #668
                  Re: climate change times are a changin'

                  Huge solar project not doing what they thought and Google wants their money back
                  http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamescon...ally-are-dumb/

                  Not sure why they went thermal, why not go right to PV but..
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                  • #669
                    Re: climate change times are a changin'

                    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                    False case. If everybody agreed a life began an conception this would be relevant, but the entire point of the pro-choice movement is it doesn't.
                    "If everyone agreed that blacks are real people, THEN they would matter. It's just not that simple though. There are differences which allow differing treatment."
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                    • #670
                      Re: climate change times are a changin'

                      Originally posted by geezer View Post
                      "If everyone agreed that blacks are real people, THEN they would matter. It's just not that simple though. There are differences which allow differing treatment."
                      That cuts both ways.

                      "If everyone agreed that gays are real people, THEN they would matter. It's just not that simple though. There are differences which allow differing treatment."
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                      • #671
                        Re: climate change times are a changin'

                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        That cuts both ways.

                        "If everyone agreed that gays are real people, THEN they would matter. It's just not that simple though. There are differences which allow differing treatment."
                        But that's exactly the same point I just made. So why does age matter so much? Because they can't talk yet? Does that make someone inhuman? Is it the size?
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                        • #672
                          Re: climate change times are a changin'

                          Originally posted by geezer View Post
                          But that's exactly the same point I just made. So why does age matter so much? Because they can't talk yet? Does that make someone inhuman? Is it the size?
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                          • #673
                            Re: climate change times are a changin'

                            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            Abstinence is murder.
                            Which IMO is just as much a dodge as the old "sacred sperm" routine. But so be it. Have a good day.
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                            • #674
                              Re: climate change times are a changin'

                              Originally posted by geezer View Post
                              Which IMO is just as much a dodge as the old "sacred sperm" routine. But so be it. Have a good day.
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                              • #675
                                Re: climate change times are a changin'

                                Holy fking sh.t. We have 50 feet of snow in Buffalo and the Midwest is experiencing one of the coldest Novembers ever due to a massive typhoon and we are still talking about abortions in this thread.

                                Jfc. Is it raining fetuses? Last time I checked the Dems weren't in power so I highly doubt it.

                                When did this thread go from science trying to convince the non-believers to science trying to convince the believers?
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                                Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                                I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                                Originally posted by Kepler
                                When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                                He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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