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  • #91
    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

    Originally posted by Handyman View Post
    Hillary lost cause she sucked
    Bernie lost cause he sucked
    Trump won despite sucking
    So say we all.
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    • #92
      Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

      Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
      I've gotta say though, it's amazing how few people have learned anything from that election including Hillary herself.
      Agreed

      Originally posted by Rover View Post
      No Democrat could have won.
      Wrong! Also, poor whites are usually rural, so most of them are no longer part of the Dem base, as you claimed. Their unions and employers betrayed them, and their jobs are gone. They have no reason to be loyal to the establishment, thus they voted for Trump.

      Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
      That's pretty arrogant. You think she didn't learn anything? I think she learned a lot. I know I did.
      Wrong!

      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      Hillary lost. It wasn't the voters, it wasn't a propeller, and it wasn't Jack the Ripper. She sucked and people said ew and she lost. She had one job as a politician and she blew it.
      Agreed

      Originally posted by Handyman View Post
      Good god do you guys have to have this same argument in every thread? What the hell does Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton have to do with the 2020 election neither are running.

      Hillary lost cause she sucked
      Bernie lost cause he sucked
      Trump won despite sucking

      There now move the frick on already.
      Bingo
      Last edited by FadeToBlack&Gold; 09-08-2017, 09:28 AM.

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      • #93
        Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

        Yeah, I didn't learn nothing. Yet I was the one person around here who KNEW the same Nader action would happen again. Me. Only me.
        **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

        Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
        Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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        • #94
          Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
          Yeah, I didn't learn nothing. Yet I was the one person around here who KNEW the same Nader action would happen again. Me. Only me.
          I don't think you get to claim that when you were wrong every step of the way up until you were right. It's like the person at bar trivia who picks the four wrong answers first, then when all of them are taken away you point to the correct one and say, "I knew it!"
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          • #95
            Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

            Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
            Those people were 53% of white women. Hardly the 33% base.
            All I'm saying is if you used literally anything other than Hillary Clinton to support your thesis about America being sexist, I'd agree with you.

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            • #96
              Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

              Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
              I don't think you get to claim that when you were wrong every step of the way up until you were right. It's like the person at bar trivia who picks the four wrong answers first, then when all of them are taken away you point to the correct one and say, "I knew it!"
              I was certainly wrong about many things. I was not wrong about the Nader effect repeating itself.
              **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

              Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
              Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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              • #97
                Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
                All I'm saying is if you used literally anything other than Hillary Clinton to support your thesis about America being sexist, I'd agree with you.
                That's easy.

                http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/a-se...-american-boy/

                Or this:

                http://www.esquire.com/lifestyle/sex...p-audio-*****/

                Second URL always has ***** in it. Search Google for Trump ***** Grabber for point number 2.
                Last edited by ScoobyDoo; 09-08-2017, 10:00 AM.
                **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                • #98
                  Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                  A few points:

                  1) Give Scoobs his props. Not sure what his batting average is, but he diagnosed the apathy of the Dem voters before anybody else out here, including myself. It is what it is.

                  2) He also has a point about misogyny. Sorry but its a factor even on the left as much as we hate to admit it. Even in the so called Enlightened Era of women's rights, which one could date to the 60's, we'd had exactly one female leader of any branch of govt in that time, which was Pelosi's 4 years as co-head of the Legislative branch. People who deny this are like people who said there's no issue with 80% of NFL players being black but no black coaches in the league back when that was the case. I mean, c'mon already, something has to be going on here.

                  3) The issue is not with Bernie Sanders the man. Sanders is a politician who was trying to win an election. All's fair in love, war, and politics. The issue is with the subset of people who supported him and who now think the world revolves around them. IMO this isn't a majority of his backers, but its a significant portion of them. The party can't ignore how to deal with this problem, and if that means looking at the 2016 race for clues then so be it.

                  4) If somebody can tell me the living and breathing Democrat who could have beaten Trump, I'd love to hear it along with your case for why.
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                  • #99
                    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                    I don't talk about Bernie at all. That's just Rover's smirking idiocy because he has nothing else.

                    Bernie is as dead and buried as Hillary. We're looking forward, now, and that's what this thread is about.
                    I, like most people, still use Bernie as a stand-in for the whole DSA movement, which yes, you have advocated for as a movement that the Dems should lean into.

                    The fact that Bernie remains the poster child(or great-grandfather, as it were) is itself problematic, and shows why it is a political loser. There's really no other leadership out there, because while they have very nice ideals, they lack the political acumen for anybody to rise to a position of prominence, unless they're a unicorn that comes from Loonyville like Bernie. All the DSA has really managed to do in the 11 months since the election has been to declare themselves anti-free donuts and anti-sheet cake. Good luck taking that message to your average American.
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                    • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                      Originally posted by Rover View Post
                      A few points:
                      Ugh. Please get Handy's memo. We all know the things you believe, you don't need to repeat them.

                      Move. On.
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                      • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        The orcs have diminished with every generation.
                        doesn't seem like it here in Maine. The state that gave us Ed Muskie and George Mitchell has largely fallen to the orcs. Only the liberal strongholds along the coast remain sane.

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                        • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          Ugh. Please get Handy's memo. We all know the things you believe, you don't need to repeat them.

                          Move. On.
                          Kep if your own family doesn't take orders from you, why should I?

                          Originally posted by BassAle View Post
                          doesn't seem like it here in Maine. The state that gave us Ed Muskie and George Mitchell has largely fallen to the orcs. Only the liberal strongholds along the coast remain sane.
                          In Kep's view anybody clearing 50K a year is an orc, so just sit back and let him do his thing.
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                          • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                            Originally posted by Rover View Post
                            Kep if your own family doesn't take orders from you, why should I?
                            My cats are pretty insubordinate now you mention it.

                            Dr. Mrs.... well, I don't know anybody whose wife takes orders from him. Must make lesbian marriage interesting.
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                            • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                              My cats are pretty insubordinate now you mention it.

                              Dr. Mrs.... well, I don't know anybody whose wife takes orders from him. Must make lesbian marriage interesting.
                              You didn't call out Bernie's name at an...um....inopportune moment, did you?

                              I kid, I kid.
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                              • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                                Originally posted by Rover View Post
                                In Kep's view anybody clearing 50K a year is an orc
                                You are conflating Orcs and Plutes.

                                Orcism has little to do with money, but insofar as it does it's the opposite correlation: Billy Bob on the front lawn couch who hasn't worked in three years is an orc.

                                Here is the distinction.
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