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Re: POTUS 45.13 - CNN is still Fake News
Don't tell that to his Ambassadors, his Secretary of State or Secretary of Defense. He has contradicted all of them after telling them they were OK America must be schizophrenic because every time we turn around we need something different. Sometimes multiple times a day. (Do I get a gold star for not quoting you know who?)
Agree on the safety. I would like very much to have it a requirement to buy/have a license, just like Driver's Ed.
I must not be exposed to the same media you are. The NRA used to have my respect but they have sold out to the gun manufacturers and the sum of my exposure to them lately has been inflammatory, slippery slope arguments or dismissing legitimate concerns. Just like the argument re Trump- If they would be reasonable and advocate for safety requirements they would have a lot more legitimacy. The only exposure I have to them is dismissive responses to people's angst and trowing their wt around politically if anyone tries to propose any intelligent response to the issues of safety (or uses the word gun in a sentence that doesn't promote ownership- sarcasm meter high).
They seem to be into promotion of everyone needing/having a gun- or at least a subset of them are. The stuff about self protection is horse feathers- statistically it doesn't hold up. The inflammatory stuff goes a long way toward scaring people into believing they need a gun or buying them in case they were to not be able to later. Listened to a great piece a few months ago on a guy who had written about the history of the NRA- how it started up to where it is today. Fascinating. They used to advocate much of what they are vehemently opposed to now. I remember some of it.
I am curious about your view that the NRA has become more extreme in the face of the anti-gun groups. I only see the anti-gun folk during times they are responding to yet another mass shooting/ shooting that is particularly tragic. I haven't seen a call for no guns. I have seen a plethora of pleading for requiring passing a test to own/carry and screening for safety- things like mental illness, history of domestic violence or other triggers that increase the likelihood for bad outcome. This could be because we have had fairly strict gun laws where I am. I did have patients trying to con me into giving them clearance for mental health issues when they first were enforced but not recently. Honestly the laws we have don't seem to impede anyone from obtaining a gun. The guys in my neighborhood all own guns. They are always blathering on about what potentially could happen but not one story/ bit of anecdotal evidence that it actually happened. Not even people they distantly know.
Don't tell that to his Ambassadors, his Secretary of State or Secretary of Defense. He has contradicted all of them after telling them they were OK America must be schizophrenic because every time we turn around we need something different. Sometimes multiple times a day. (Do I get a gold star for not quoting you know who?)
Originally posted by Drew S.
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I must not be exposed to the same media you are. The NRA used to have my respect but they have sold out to the gun manufacturers and the sum of my exposure to them lately has been inflammatory, slippery slope arguments or dismissing legitimate concerns. Just like the argument re Trump- If they would be reasonable and advocate for safety requirements they would have a lot more legitimacy. The only exposure I have to them is dismissive responses to people's angst and trowing their wt around politically if anyone tries to propose any intelligent response to the issues of safety (or uses the word gun in a sentence that doesn't promote ownership- sarcasm meter high).
They seem to be into promotion of everyone needing/having a gun- or at least a subset of them are. The stuff about self protection is horse feathers- statistically it doesn't hold up. The inflammatory stuff goes a long way toward scaring people into believing they need a gun or buying them in case they were to not be able to later. Listened to a great piece a few months ago on a guy who had written about the history of the NRA- how it started up to where it is today. Fascinating. They used to advocate much of what they are vehemently opposed to now. I remember some of it.
I am curious about your view that the NRA has become more extreme in the face of the anti-gun groups. I only see the anti-gun folk during times they are responding to yet another mass shooting/ shooting that is particularly tragic. I haven't seen a call for no guns. I have seen a plethora of pleading for requiring passing a test to own/carry and screening for safety- things like mental illness, history of domestic violence or other triggers that increase the likelihood for bad outcome. This could be because we have had fairly strict gun laws where I am. I did have patients trying to con me into giving them clearance for mental health issues when they first were enforced but not recently. Honestly the laws we have don't seem to impede anyone from obtaining a gun. The guys in my neighborhood all own guns. They are always blathering on about what potentially could happen but not one story/ bit of anecdotal evidence that it actually happened. Not even people they distantly know.
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