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  • #76
    Re: NHL 2016.1 -- Anyone have a Laine on a new Auston?

    Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a trade:

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    • #77
      Re: NHL 2016.1 -- Anyone have a Laine on a new Auston?

      Originally posted by joecct View Post
      Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a trade:

      Chicago: Acquires Carolina's 2016 2nd round (via Rangers #50 overall) and 2017 3rd Round
      Carolina: Acquires Chicago's Brian Bickell and Teuvo Teravainen
      Salary dump. They had to get rid of Bickell's contract. Sad to see Teravainen as collateral damage.
      It Happened!!!!

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      • #78
        Re: NHL 2016.1 -- Anyone have a Laine on a new Auston?

        Originally posted by joecct View Post
        Remember the Isles and Barclays have an out clause after 5 years.
        The Isles have new owners who are L.I. (and Harvard, puke) douch-bags. They're as permanent as tasteless home decor and that f-cking accent.
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        • #79
          Re: NHL 2016.1 -- Anyone have a Laine on a new Auston?

          Originally posted by ExileOnDaytonStreet View Post
          Stupid.

          ****ing stupid.

          We already have one failure in the desert.
          Nate Hate for Vegas. For the record, I am for shipping Nashville, Miami, Raleigh, and Tampa to Canada. Columbus can stay because cool uniforms. Phoenix and Vegas can stay as part of my plan for Albuquerque to get a franchise before I retire.
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          • #80
            Re: NHL 2016.1 -- Anyone have a Laine on a new Auston?

            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
            Nate Hate for Vegas. For the record, I am for shipping Nashville, Miami, Raleigh, and Tampa to Canada. Columbus can stay because cool uniforms. Phoenix and Vegas can stay as part of my plan for Albuquerque to get a franchise before I retire.
            No, Tampa has to stay so they can host the Frozen Four every four years.

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            • #81
              Re: NHL 2016.1 -- Anyone have a Laine on a new Auston?

              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              For the record, I am for shipping Nashville, Miami, Raleigh, and Tampa to Canada.
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              Like... the actual cities, or the NHL franchises located there?
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              • #82
                Re: NHL 2016.1 -- Anyone have a Laine on a new Auston?

                Originally posted by ExileOnDaytonStreet View Post
                Stupid.

                ****ing stupid.

                We already have one failure in the desert.
                I realize this is a hockey discussion and not one about the environment, but every added attraction likely to make LV even more of a drain on precious water resources is an offense, IMO. Square peg in a round environmental hole.

                I hope someone will come on here and enlighten me on all the creative and effective solutions LV is finding to conserve water, but I'm not holding my breath.

                And yes, I know we are well past the point where that folly first occurred and that there many other offenders in this category. But Parise, is there a limit?

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                • #83
                  Re: NHL 2016.1 -- Anyone have a Laine on a new Auston?

                  Originally posted by burd View Post
                  I hope someone will come on here and enlighten me on all the creative and effective solutions LV is finding to conserve water, but I'm not holding my breath.
                  They conserved 9.6 billion gallons last year by paying people to switch from grass to desert landscape and prohibit planting grass on new developments. They also conserved about 65 billion gallons by recycling drain water and sending it back into Lake Mead. Obviously their issues aren't fixed, but the effect of a hockey rink is a tiny drop in the bucket.
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                  • #84
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                    Originally posted by lugnut92 View Post
                    Seattle will be expansion and QC will be relocation.
                    The west will be expansion because they are 14 now. If Vegas is real, then probably Seattle, but a surprise (Portland, another CA team?) wouldn't shock me either.

                    Any franchise movement in the east will stay east and will be either to QC or to Toronto (where there is group trying to get a second franchise* in the city).

                    The end-game here is to balance the NHL to 16 east and 16 west.

                    *I said franchise, not team.
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                    • #85
                      Re: NHL 2016.1 -- Anyone have a Laine on a new Auston?

                      Originally posted by MaizeRage View Post
                      They conserved 9.6 billion gallons last year by paying people to switch from grass to desert landscape and prohibit planting grass on new developments. They also conserved about 65 billion gallons by recycling drain water and sending it back into Lake Mead. Obviously their issues aren't fixed, but the effect of a hockey rink is a tiny drop in the bucket.
                      Literally. It'll be interesting (to me anyway) to see what they will do for refrigeration, both for the sheet and the building. The biggest water consumption may well be a cooling tower if they go evaporative. It is hugely more cost and energy effective to use an evaporative tower, but it can be done with dry coolers to reject the heat. So balance first cost + energy cost versus water consumption. The water lost by a tower cannot be reclaimed, cleaned and returned to the lake as can the water used to flush toilets, the other big consumption.

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                      • #86
                        Re: NHL 2016.1 -- Anyone have a Laine on a new Auston?

                        Originally posted by goldy_331 View Post
                        Literally. It'll be interesting (to me anyway) to see what they will do for refrigeration, both for the sheet and the building. The biggest water consumption may well be a cooling tower if they go evaporative. It is hugely more cost and energy effective to use an evaporative tower, but it can be done with dry coolers to reject the heat. So balance first cost + energy cost versus water consumption. The water lost by a tower cannot be reclaimed, cleaned and returned to the lake as can the water used to flush toilets, the other big consumption.
                        Any chance they could get really creative and make the roof a solar farm to power the fans for the dry coolers? They'd be lucky to get a quarter-megawatt from that, but it wouldn't hurt.
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                        • #87
                          Re: NHL 2016.1 -- Anyone have a Laine on a new Auston?

                          Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
                          Any chance they could get really creative and make the roof a solar farm to power the fans for the dry coolers? They'd be lucky to get a quarter-megawatt from that, but it wouldn't hurt.
                          Absolutely. A large, flat roof of an arena would be ideal for a solar farm. Of course the payback is likely to be ~30-40 years based on current energy costs. We are often tasked to design for solar panels on the buildings we design. The only entities who end up putting the panels in are public ones who are spending tax payer dollars instead of their own due to the payback or ROI. If electricity costs are higher in the desert, it may pay. They obviously get much higher output in the desert than we do here in cloudy MN so a small increase in rates could swing it to profitability.

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                          • #88
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                            From the limited information from Google, they've utilized lots of green-scapes, a cool-roof design, and utilization of solar-reflective materials all to prevent T-Mobile arena from becoming a giant oven. Since it's MGM's building, I think they've had a few years of experimenting before building it.

                            And this isn't the first building with an ice surface in Vegas. Thomas and Mack center has/had an ice plant where the IHL Las Vegas Thunder played. Orleans Arena hosted the (fairly successful) Las Vegas Wranglers of the ECHL.

                            Also, the MGM Grand Garden Arena has been host to Coyote and Kings preseason games, and is still in use.
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                            • #89
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                              Originally posted by aparch View Post
                              From the limited information from Google, they've utilized lots of green-scapes, a cool-roof design, and utilization of solar-reflective materials all to prevent T-Mobile arena from becoming a giant oven. Since it's MGM's building, I think they've had a few years of experimenting before building it.

                              And this isn't the first building with an ice surface in Vegas. Thomas and Mack center has/had an ice plant where the IHL Las Vegas Thunder played. Orleans Arena hosted the (fairly successful) Las Vegas Wranglers of the ECHL.

                              Also, the MGM Grand Garden Arena has been host to Coyote and Kings preseason games, and is still in use.
                              Yeah, I don't think we really have to worry about Las Vegas figuring this out. They've somehow managed to construct buildings like the MGM Grand with 5000 rooms, an 18,000 seat arena and a massive casino and manage to keep it at a cool 70 degrees in the middle of the desert while leaving the doors open 24/7. Pretty sure they've got the whole "cooling" and massive water use things down.
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                              • #90
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                                Originally posted by aparch View Post
                                From the limited information from Google, they've utilized lots of
                                USED, GODDAMMIT! Used, not utilized. "Utilized" is a word planted by the devil to sap our precious bodily fluids.

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