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Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical
As some engineers claimed here five years ago, solar will never be consequential.
Oh except for a new solar farm that will power 20,000 homes and which is located in that solar hotbed of Minnesota. Other than that...
http://kstp.com/news/solar-project-c...123/?cat=12196Go Gophers!
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Originally posted by 5mn_Major View PostAs some engineers claimed here five years ago, solar will never be consequential.
Oh except for a new solar farm that will power 20,000 homes and which is located in that solar hotbed of Minnesota. Other than that...
http://kstp.com/news/solar-project-c...123/?cat=12196
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”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
- Benjamin Franklin
Banned from the St. Lawrence University Facebook page - March 2016 (But I got better).
I want to live forever. So far, so good.
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Originally posted by 5mn_Major View PostAs some engineers claimed here five years ago, solar will never be consequential.
Oh except for a new solar farm that will power 20,000 homes and which is located in that solar hotbed of Minnesota. Other than that...
http://kstp.com/news/solar-project-c...123/?cat=12196"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984
"One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir
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Originally posted by St. Clown View PostAnd all it took was to make it "...one of the largest solar facilities in the country with more than 440,000 solar panels spanning 1,000 acres near North Branch." That's only 1.526 square miles of solar panels! I bet they're dirt cheap to purchase, too.
Is one million homes inconsequential? Clown will have to be greatest perfectionist in history once we get to the 2020s.
http://www.healthnutnews.com/worlds-...mes-in-nevada/Go Gophers!
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Originally posted by 5mn_Major View PostAll drops in the bucket. And 'dirty cheap' is far less than indefinitely burning fossel fuels.
Is one million homes inconsequential? Clown will have to be greatest perfectionist in history once we get to the 2020s.
http://www.healthnutnews.com/worlds-...mes-in-nevada/"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984
"One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir
"Good news! We have a delivery." Professor Farnsworth
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Originally posted by St. Clown View PostBuilding a solar plant in arid Nevada is a lot different than building one in MN. You understand that, right?Go Gophers!
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Originally posted by 5mn_Major View PostI do. The claims you guys have been making against solar for years is that it well never be consequential in the United States due to 'barriers that can never be crossed due to physics'. Obviously science has and will always continue to obliterate 'barriers of physics'."The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984
"One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir
"Good news! We have a delivery." Professor Farnsworth
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Originally posted by St. Clown View PostThat's not how physics works.Go Gophers!
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Originally posted by 5mn_Major View PostWell then evidently powering a million homes with solar means physics not working. Lynah spent all this time showing all these numbers of how solar panels would never amount to anything. I never understood that logic. Scientific improvement never stops.
And you're forgetting - or intentionally omitting - a key component to everyone's arguments against solar energy: the cost of collecting, storing and transmitting it when compared to other forms of energy production. Look at the cost/unit of solar vs. that of other forms. It's still prohibitive for truly large scale usage. One million homes contain a population of around four million people. We have more than 330MM people in the US, so you're thumping your chest at meeting just over 1% of our energy needs, and that solar farm is located in one of the best possible locations in this country for its production. The efficacy rate of land usage vs. energy production in MN will be nowhere near as high. Try building one of these things in Seattle."The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984
"One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir
"Good news! We have a delivery." Professor Farnsworth
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Originally posted by St. Clown View PostAnd you're forgetting - or intentionally omitting - a key component to everyone's arguments against solar energy: the cost of collecting, storing and transmitting it when compared to other forms of energy production. Look at the cost/unit of solar vs. that of other forms. It's still prohibitive for truly large scale usage.
Originally posted by St. Clown View PostOne million homes contain a population of around four million people. We have more than 330MM people in the US, so you're thumping your chest at meeting just over 1% of our energy needs, and that solar farm is located in one of the best possible locations in this country for its production. The efficacy rate of land usage vs. energy production in MN will be nowhere near as high. Try building one of these things in Seattle.Go Gophers!
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Originally posted by 5mn_Major View PostAs some engineers claimed here five years ago, solar will never be consequential.
Oh except for a new solar farm that will power 20,000 homes and which is located in that solar hotbed of Minnesota. Other than that...
http://kstp.com/news/solar-project-c...123/?cat=12196
Look I'm all for solar, I'll bet I'm the only guy on here who actually uses Solar to heat hot water and uses it to help heat 2 different buildings. I'm also taken classes to get NABCEP certified as a PV installer. I found out I wouldn't try to sell a PV system to anyone who wasn't out to save the planet. It doesn't work right now. if Tesla battery packs will get it so you can go off grid then I'm all for it. Until then "simple math" takes solar off the table . That certainly doesn't mean in the future it won't work. Instead of alternate energy, conservation will do more for less in the immediate future. How you get folks to do that is beyond me?
I'm all for these solar farms but until I see the actual amount of energy they really produce they are a losing propositionLast edited by walrus; 10-20-2016, 06:07 PM.I swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell.
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Originally posted by walrus View PostGot to love the "its expected" part. So it will meet all their electrical needs, day and night for 20,000 homes?
Look I'm all for solar, I'll bet I'm the only guy on here who actually uses Solar to heat hot water and uses it to help heat 2 different buildings. I'm also taken classes to get NABCEP certified as a PV installer. I found out I wouldn't try to sell a PV system to anyone who wasn't out to save the planet. It doesn't work right now. if Tesla battery packs will get it so you can go off grid then I'm all for it. Until then "simple math" takes solar off the table . That certainly doesn't mean in the future it won't work. Instead of alternate energy, conservation will do more for less in the immediate future. How you get folks to do that is beyond me?
I'm all for these solar farms but until I see the actual amount of energy they really produce they are a losing propositionGo Gophers!
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Originally posted by 5mn_Major View PostNearly every technology that has gotten to this stage has had glitches. But nearly every technology that has gotten to this stage of development has turned out to be a global standard. It will happen and those that take the lumps will be heavily rewarded...with the rest of society reaping huge benefits. And the US needs to be in the drivers seat. Services, content and new technology. We win in those areas or the whole country turns into Akron.I swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell.
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