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  • Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

    Originally posted by joecct View Post
    It has to start somewhere. And on a per capita basis you face long odds on reaching adulthood once you're conceived in DC.
    Not good enough. It has been said that all fetuses "have to be killed at all costs". Time to get cracking!

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    • Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

      Originally posted by MinnFan View Post
      Crime drops after concealed carry passed

      A pretty intensive study of crime rates after concealed carry laws have been passed in various states.
      Wait...I thought crime dropped in the 90's because abortion was legalized in 1973...

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      • Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

        Originally posted by Priceless View Post
        Wait...I thought crime dropped in the 90's because abortion was legalized in 1973...
        More than one cause can contribute to the same outcome....
        > fewer criminals committing crime (to the extent that you believe that had those abortions not occurred, they would have turned into unwanted children who were more likely to be abused who were more likely to grow up into criminals and gang members -- I suppose it's a good thing that this remains [someone else's] conjecture, since no data possibly could be available!);
        > while those criminals who did survive their time in the womb also were deterred by the knowledge that their putative victims might fight back (which purportedly is data-supported in the referenced study).
        "Hope is a good thing; maybe the best of things."

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        • Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

          Originally posted by MinnFan View Post
          Crime drops after concealed carry passed

          A pretty intensive study of crime rates after concealed carry laws have been passed in various states.
          John Lott?

          His work is worth less than toilet paper. He is a right wing conservative who just happens to be a specialist finding 'fact based' studies to prove his theories:

          Against liberal media bias
          Against environmental policy
          The 'negative' impact of hiring minorities into police departments
          How abortion increases crime
          ...and negative impacts of giving women the right to vote

          Florida was the first state to pass a RTC concealed handgun law in 1987. Between 1987 and 1994, the violent crime rate in Florida increased 11.7 percent. According to the FBI Uniform Crime Report, Florida also had the highest violent crime rate of any of state in the nation.

          Until those most concerned with security such as banks, airlines, government offices welcome or even allow folks with concealed handguns...we know just how safe they are.
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          • Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

            Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
            John Lott?

            His work is worth less than toilet paper. He is a right wing conservative who just happens to be a specialist finding 'fact based' studies to prove his theories:

            Against liberal media bias
            Against environmental policy
            The 'negative' impact of hiring minorities into police departments
            How abortion increases crime
            ...and negative impacts of giving women the right to vote

            Florida was the first state to pass a RTC concealed handgun law in 1987. Between 1987 and 1994, the violent crime rate in Florida increased 11.7 percent. According to the FBI Uniform Crime Report, Florida also had the highest violent crime rate of any of state in the nation.

            Until those most concerned with security such as banks, airlines, government offices welcome or even allow folks with concealed handguns...we know just how safe they are.
            And how about all the other states that had their crime rates (especially violent crime) drop? Where are all these bodies in the street that were predicted prior to concealed carry passing?

            While there may have been abuses (such as the case in Florida potentially may be) I would say the benefits have far outweighed any negative consequences.
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            • Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

              Concealed handguns aren't about personal safety, they're a cultural issue. I had no idea what to make of the whole NRA gun-clutching thing until I moved to a place where everybody grew up with guns. I've changed my mind on the issue completely: everybody I know here who has guns also had great safety training, including a lot of military training where they learned to handle weapons a helluva more dangerous than a pistol.

              Arguing with people here about gun violence would be like arguing with people that they shouldn't drive cars because of the accidents. It's just talking past each other. I'm not states' rights about much, but on guns I am in favor of letting states do whatever they want.
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              • Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

                Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                John Lott?

                His work is worth less than toilet paper. He is a right wing conservative who just happens to be a specialist finding 'fact based' studies to prove his theories:

                Against liberal media bias
                Against environmental policy
                The 'negative' impact of hiring minorities into police departments
                How abortion increases crime
                ...and negative impacts of giving women the right to vote

                Florida was the first state to pass a RTC concealed handgun law in 1987. Between 1987 and 1994, the violent crime rate in Florida increased 11.7 percent. According to the FBI Uniform Crime Report, Florida also had the highest violent crime rate of any of state in the nation.

                Until those most concerned with security such as banks, airlines, government offices welcome or even allow folks with concealed handguns...we know just how safe they are.
                And yet, incessant posts by Huffington Post are OK. Something tells me there may be a double standard.

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                • Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

                  Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  Concealed handguns aren't about personal safety, they're a cultural issue. I had no idea what to make of the whole NRA gun-clutching thing until I moved to a place where everybody grew up with guns. I've changed my mind on the issue completely: everybody I know here who has guns also had great safety training, including a lot of military training where they learned to handle weapons a helluva more dangerous than a pistol.

                  Arguing with people here about gun violence would be like arguing with people that they shouldn't drive cars because of the accidents. It's just talking past each other. I'm not states' rights about much, but on guns I am in favor of letting states do whatever they want.
                  I just love hearing the NRA argue that an automatic weapon that fires 100 rounds a second is necessary for hunting. Really? If you like eating lead that much, just save money and eat the bullets.

                  That said, outlawing guns would be about as effective as outlawing cars. As long as people get extensive training, go ahead and use them. Just keep them away from kids. To use the car metaphor again, we require extensive training in how to drive and we don't let kids behind the wheel.

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                  • Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

                    Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                    I just love hearing the NRA argue that an automatic weapon that fires 100 rounds a second is necessary for hunting.
                    That argument has never been made in the history of the world. Or perhaps you could link the documents you're referring to?
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                    • Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

                      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      Concealed handguns aren't about personal safety, they're a cultural issue. I had no idea what to make of the whole NRA gun-clutching thing until I moved to a place where everybody grew up with guns. I've changed my mind on the issue completely: everybody I know here who has guns also had great safety training, including a lot of military training where they learned to handle weapons a helluva more dangerous than a pistol.

                      Arguing with people here about gun violence would be like arguing with people that they shouldn't drive cars because of the accidents. It's just talking past each other. I'm not states' rights about much, but on guns I am in favor of letting states do whatever they want.
                      Yes, we had the same experience when we moved to Wyoming. Changed my attitude entirely as well.

                      One time I was in a bar and two old-timers were reminiscing...."do you remember the murder?" "yeah, when was that....12 years ago?"
                      We had a father-son night at the municipal rec center and one of the activities was target shooting in the shooting range in the basement. Learning to handle guns safely and responsibly occurs around the same time as learning to ride a bicycle.

                      I always remember a snippet from some television show I saw once. A guy goes into a bar thinking to rob it, not knowing it's a bar routinely frequented by policemen. He pulls his gun on the bartender and seconds later every person in the bar has their gun trained at him.
                      "Hope is a good thing; maybe the best of things."

                      "Beer is a sign that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -- Benjamin Franklin

                      "Being Irish, he had an abiding sense of tragedy, which sustained him through temporary periods of joy." -- W. B. Yeats

                      "People generally are most impatient with those flaws in others about which they are most ashamed of in themselves." - folk wisdom

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                      • Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

                        Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
                        Yes, we had the same experience when we moved to Wyoming.
                        How's the hockey scene in Wyoming?
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                        • Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          How's the hockey scene in Wyoming?
                          Good enough that a Futile Four event hasn't happened there.

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                          • Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

                            Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                            Good enough that a Futile Four event hasn't happened there.
                            Don't joke. The ECAC is looking for a venue.
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                            • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                              Don't joke. The ECAC is looking for a venue.
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                              • Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

                                Originally posted by geezer View Post
                                That argument has never been made in the history of the world. Or perhaps you could link the documents you're referring to?
                                In Maine its illegal to hunt with an automatic weapon, sure its been though
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