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  • #46
    Originally posted by MUhawks628 View Post
    Will there be subs delivered freaskishly fast to my seat?
    I think it'd be fairly easy to assume Jimmy John's would be a vendor.
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    • #47
      Re: Illinois to D1

      Originally posted by JDUBBS1280 View Post
      So did the University of Illinois in Champaign. Not sure about other programs, but the Gophers played them 17 times between 1938-1943.

      Not sure why either school dropped their program, but my guess would be $$$.

      EDIT: the Gophers played Illinois-Chicago 7 times between 1983-1993.
      I think Illinois at Champaign dropped it because of WW II and didn't pick it up after the war.
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      • #48
        Re: Illinois to D1

        Good luck.............

        Originally posted by Brian Gentry View Post
        Never even heard of Jimmy John's?
        Cousins (started in Milwaukee in the 70's) is my favorite; Jimmy John's a close 2nd. BTW, I know The Chief is gone, but will the Fighting Illini thing will disappear like the Fighting Sioux? It's still there for football.




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        • #49
          Re: Illinois to D1

          Originally posted by MadCityRich View Post
          Good luck.............

          Cousins (started in Milwaukee in the 70's) is my favorite; Jimmy John's a close 2nd. BTW, I know The Chief is gone, but will the Fighting Illini thing will disappear like the Fighting Sioux? It's still there for football.




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          • #50
            Re: Illinois to D1

            Originally posted by JDUBBS1280 View Post
            Neither Michigan nor Michigan State have a women's hockey program.
            Tough to do when a school has only a single arena. You'll never see it at Michigan, Red doesn't play well with others and share. lol! Ohio State was able to add a womens team only when the mens team moved into the new arena opening up the small old one for the women to use. It would certainly enhance the sport if Illinois could add both.

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            • #51
              Re: Illinois to D1

              Originally posted by Hockeybuckeye View Post
              Tough to do when a school has only a single arena. You'll never see it at Michigan, Red doesn't play well with others and share. lol! Ohio State was able to add a womens team only when the mens team moved into the new arena opening up the small old one for the women to use. It would certainly enhance the sport if Illinois could add both.
              Last I checked, most schools with women's hockey only have one rink. And, the opening of Value City notwithstanding, women's college hockey (out west anyway) didn't really exist before '98 (only the Gophers amongst WCHA teams had a program before that year), so why would OSU even think of starting a team before Value City opened?
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              CCHA: BSU, BG, FSU, LSSU, MSU, MTU, NMU
              ECAC:
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              • #52
                Re: Illinois to D1

                Originally posted by Hockeybuckeye View Post
                Tough to do when a school has only a single arena. You'll never see it at Michigan, Red doesn't play well with others and share. lol! Ohio State was able to add a womens team only when the mens team moved into the new arena opening up the small old one for the women to use. It would certainly enhance the sport if Illinois could add both.
                I know I am beating a dead horse with my fellow OSU fans, but I have always maintained that it would be tough for a coach to win at tOSU even though I believe tOSU to be a sleeping giant in the sport of ice hockey due to the lack of a hockey-only facility at Ohio State. Thankfully, both of our new coaches (Coach Osiecki is actually in his second season with the men, first year for Coach Handrahan with our womens program) have proven me wrong. Good luck to Illinois if they decide to go forward with a varsity mens program. The more, the better for the Big Ten Hockey Conference. I would still like to see Michigan and Michigan State add womens hockey. There are a number schools in college hockey where the men and women share the same arena.

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                • #53
                  Re: Illinois to D1

                  Originally posted by 4four4 View Post
                  IMO, 15 million isn't going to get you very much for a Big Ten hockey arena. Just sayin.
                  Around here it doesn't get you any more than a city rec arena.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by goldy_331 View Post
                    Around here it doesn't get you any more than a city rec arena.
                    Exactly. They will need to build on that figure for sure if they want to build a quality arena. I wonder if that's where Jimmy John's comes into play?

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                    • #55
                      Re: Illinois to D1

                      Originally posted by goldy_331 View Post
                      Around here it doesn't get you any more than a city rec arena.
                      Crookston (MN) Sports Center (87,000 sq ft and $15 million):

                      http://www.grandforksherald.com/even...allery/id/655/

                      Don't get me wrong - it's a nice rink for what it is (a community rink with high school and club college - former D-II Minnesota-Crookston), but it's no where near a D-I rink (at least, no where near a B1G/NCHC/WCHA rink. AHA? Sure). I do agree though, that if there already is a plan in place for a $15 mil facility, one could see a big donor just adding to the pot...
                      Current NCAA D-I rinks I've been to:

                      AHA:
                      B1G: UMich, MSU, UMinn, Notre Dame, OSU, UWisc
                      CCHA: BSU, BG, FSU, LSSU, MSU, MTU, NMU
                      ECAC:
                      HEA: UMass
                      NCHC: Miami, UMD, UND, SCSU, WMU
                      Independant: ASU


                      Inactive: UAH, ASU, BSU, UMD, UND, NMU, Notre Dame

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                      • #56
                        Re: Illinois to D1

                        Originally posted by moose97 View Post
                        Crookston (MN) Sports Center (87,000 sq ft and $15 million):

                        http://www.grandforksherald.com/even...allery/id/655/

                        Don't get me wrong - it's a nice rink for what it is (a community rink with high school and club college - former D-II Minnesota-Crookston), but it's no where near a D-I rink (at least, no where near a B1G/NCHC/WCHA rink. AHA? Sure). I do agree though, that if there already is a plan in place for a $15 mil facility, one could see a big donor just adding to the pot...
                        Indeed. If UIUC wanted to get in on the ground floor, they could maybe get away with a Bemidji State/Sanford Center-sized arena: seating 4,373 (though listed elsewhere as 4,700), cost $35 million according to Wikipedia. That said, most of Jimmy's money would go to start-up costs and an endowment for the team, leaving $10 million if that for an arena. Good chunk of seed money, but that's about it.

                        Too bad the existing UI Ice Arena isn't larger - it's a handsome facility, though it only seats 1,200 and holds 2,000. It's also a wider-than-standard sheet at 115 feet, so perhaps Illinois could squeeze in taller bleachers on one side by cutting it back to 90 feet... that could yield perhaps 3,000 total capacity. It would probably be enough for a women's team, but still inadequate for a B1G men's team.
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                        • #57
                          Re: Illinois to D1

                          Originally posted by moose97 View Post
                          Last I checked, most schools with women's hockey only have one rink. And, the opening of Value City notwithstanding, women's college hockey (out west anyway) didn't really exist before '98 (only the Gophers amongst WCHA teams had a program before that year), so why would OSU even think of starting a team before Value City opened?
                          Having two ice sheets is a big help. But if you're at all flexible, two varsities can share a rink without difficulty. Note that the OSU Men's Varsity regularly practices at the Ice Rink. The Ice Rink is also home to two club teams. I don't know how often the club teams practice. But you might say that the Ice Rink is actually home to 3.5 teams.

                          If there's only one rink with adequate seating, game times can be an issue. Some schools have addressed this by having the Women's Varsity play on a Saturday afternoon/Sunday afternoon basis. Maybe that's not a first choice, but it's not a bad solution at all.

                          I don't know much about the current set-up at Illinois. But if they were to build a new facility for Men's D-1 and renovate the existing rink for Women's D-1, they'd be following closely in our footsteps. I'm sure that both programs could thrive in that arrangement. But a single hockey-only facility can work just as well. Add a second sheet of ice for practice and you've got the best of the both worlds. All you'd lose is the option for the two teams to host games simultaneously. Personally I'd rather our two varsities didn't play head-to-head!

                          As for the late '90s, I'd say that a number of things came together at roughly the same time, but it was more of coincidence than anything else. Women's Club Hockey was very strong at OSU in the '90s, so there was a foundation in place that a new varsity could build on when the opportunity arose. And at the time the decision to build the Schott was made, there was a definite void in this market for an NHL/NBA caliber building. Yes, these two things happened contemporaneously. And it's probably fair to say that they were both part of a large package deal. But to the extent that Hockeybuckeye is saying there's a necessary connection between the two, I'd partially disagree. Was the package deal necessary from a political point of view? Quite possibly yes. Was it necessary from the perspective of operating two hockey programs? Again, no.

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                          • #58
                            Re: Illinois to D1

                            I'll believe it when I see it. Time to fire up the money incinerator.
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                            • #59
                              Re: Illinois to D1

                              On Illinois web site they list 9 Men's sports and 10 Women's sports. Maybe they are already lined up for this to happen.
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                              • #60
                                Re: Illinois to D1

                                Originally posted by DLW4GOPHERS View Post
                                On Illinois web site they list 9 Men's sports and 10 Women's sports. Maybe they are already lined up for this to happen.
                                It's not about number of sports, it's about how much money they spend in each of the sports.
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