Nice Planet 2011

[Almington]

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...the hell? Yes it does. I've never not had it tacked on. Pardon the double negative.

I have had a time or two where it didn't get tacked on, but it is a very rare occurrance. I just assumed that somewhere my credit slip was misplaced and left (almost) a double tip the next time I had that waitress.

[bigblue_dl]

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I have had a time or two where it didn't get tacked on, but it is a very rare occurrance. I just assumed that somewhere my credit slip was misplaced and left (almost) a double tip the next time I had that waitress.

I wouldn't know. I rarely keep restaurant receipts anymore.

[johnnypohlfan]

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The 1% tip story has turned out to be a hoax. I'm just too lazy at the moment to provide a link.

[Proud2baLaker]

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The 1% tip story has turned out to be a hoax. I'm just too lazy at the moment to provide a link.

Just saw an article on yahoo about it. The problem there is the picture of the original receipt they show is the "Guest Copy" (which also could easily have been doctored afterwards) while the one in the original article is the "Merchant Copy." Who knows.

[MountieBoyOz]

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The 1% tip story has turned out to be a hoax. I'm just too lazy at the moment to provide a link.

Oops. Sorry if I got suckered.

[bigmrg74]

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Agreed. That's not the customer's fault, that is a VISA technology FAIL.

yeah, I would think the waitstaff would be **** sure that they put it all in the right way, so I don't see where it would be the customer's fault here. Although I do think I do see the wisdom of just going strait cash at a place like a coney island.

[Old Pio]

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Oops. Sorry if I got suckered.

Not so suckered. Ask anyone who has ever waited on tables and they'll provide an endless supply of similar stories.

[bigblue_dl]

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Not so suckered. Ask anyone who has ever waited on tables and they'll provide an endless supply of similar stories.

I'm skeptical of some of those stories. Sure, waiters and waitresses get screwed over on tips, it happens and it sucks. But I don't like the idea that they expect a good tip if the service is terrible, maybe they don't, but that is impression that I have gotten. I have no problem tipping well when I get even decent service, but if the service is completely horse****, I don't think it is out of line to leave a horse**** tip. On the other hand, if the place is somewhere where I plan on going back to regularly or soon, I tip well no matter what because I don't want my food to get ****ed with, but that's a different issue.

[bigmrg74]

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Not so suckered. Ask anyone who has ever waited on tables and they'll provide an endless supply of similar stories.

I know I would believe it. Hell, last night at work I did a 90 Hot Stone Massage, which is a hundred dollar service there where I work at. I just looked at my credit card tips here and the lady only tipped me 5 bucks for it. Granted she could have also given cash along with the 5 on the credit card, our system doesn't track cash given as tips as we get our tips at the end of the shift. And given the fact that I only got $28 in tips from Monday Night, I kind of doubt it she really added more there.

[Old Pio]

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I'm skeptical of some of those stories. Sure, waiters and waitresses get screwed over on tips, it happens and it sucks. But I don't like the idea that they expect a good tip if the service is terrible, maybe they don't, but that is impression that I have gotten. I have no problem tipping well when I get even decent service, but if the service is completely horse****, I don't think it is out of line to leave a horse**** tip. On the other hand, if the place is somewhere where I plan on going back to regularly or soon, I tip well no matter what because I don't want my food to get ****ed with, but that's a different issue.

Many (most?) a*shats rationalize and justify stiffing the waitstaff using that exact same language. I'm not suggesting YOU're an a*shat, only that the pr*cks who pretty consistently and deliberately abuse and under tip waitstaff have appropriated your reasoning. My own view is most service is average, some is extraordinary and some really sucks. A bell curve, if you will. And IMO the amount of waitstaff stiffing far exceeds the amount of really sucky service. Theoretically there's an amount of money that could induce me to wait tables, but it's only theoretical.

[bigblue_dl]

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Many (most?) a*shats rationalize and justify stiffing the waitstaff using the exact same language. I'm not suggesting YOU're an a*shat, only that the pr*cks who pretty consistently and deliberately abuse and under tip waitstaff have appropriated your language. My own view is most service is average, some is extraordinary and some really sucks. A bell curve, if you will. And IMO the amount of waitstaff stiffing far exceeds the amount of really sucky service. Theoretically there's an amount of money that could induce me to wait tables, but it's only theoretical.

I agree with that. I would also guess that the asshats that use that rationalization do it because they actually know they're asshats, and make the excuse so they don't feel like an a-hole.
Service has to be pretty bad, even horrible for me to give a bad tip. Even average service I tip 20%, sometimes more, if its going on the corporate card.

[Old Pio]

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I agree with that. I would also guess that the asshats that use that rationalization do it because they actually know they're asshats, and make the excuse so they don't feel like an a-hole.
Service has to be pretty bad, even horrible for me to give a bad tip. Even average service I tip 20%, sometimes more, if its going on the corporate card.

A few years ago, while working in Milwaukee, a guy for the Journal Sentinal wrote a column about why black folks are such notoriously bad tippers. Naturally, he was black himself. Anyway, the point of the column was that the reputation, generally, was deserved. And he offered several possible explanations for it. But an expectation of perfect as opposed to good service, headed the list.

[The Rube]

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A few years ago, while working in Milwaukee, a guy for the Journal Sentinal wrote a column about why black folks are such notoriously bad tippers. Naturally, he was black himself. Anyway, the point of the column was that the reputation, generally, was deserved. And he offered several possible explanations for it. But an expectation of perfect as opposed to good service, headed the list.

I usually start with 20%, and go from there. I rarely have had bad service, though, and then I think I dipped to 10%. Most of the places I go to, I'm a semi-regular, and the staff generally remembers me/my group, or I know that I'm going to get good service, and the tips are usually higher.

[bigblue_dl]

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Hell, once I tried to tip something like $7000 at Toby Keith's!

[leswp1]

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I know I would believe it. Hell, last night at work I did a 90 Hot Stone Massage, which is a hundred dollar service there where I work at. I just looked at my credit card tips here and the lady only tipped me 5 bucks for it. Granted she could have also given cash along with the 5 on the credit card, our system doesn't track cash given as tips as we get our tips at the end of the shift. And given the fact that I only got $28 in tips from Monday Night, I kind of doubt it she really added more there.

You always talk about tips but I look at my MT like I would a PT or an OT. She has a private practice, not in a salon. I won't think anyone I know tips her. Not only that I think she would be shocked if we did.