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    Re: RPI Pros IV

    Quote Originally Posted by DrDemento View Post
    Columbus goaltending situation is in a bit of flux. They apparently just traded for a new goaltender.Not at all sure how that affects York in their plans.
    If they don't find a way to get York some playing time, it won't affect him at all. They need to put him in and keep him in to find out where he belongs. This organization just seems to be completely off the wall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by engineerhockeyfan View Post
    If they don't find a way to get York some playing time, it won't affect him at all. They need to put him in and keep him in to find out where he belongs. This organization just seems to be completely off the wall.
    Ehf_i just brought it up to see what others felt. I wasn't sure if it helped his chances or hurt them.
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    Brandon Pirri notches his 21st late in the 3rd for the game winner...named #1 Star http://theahl.com/stats/official-gam...ame_id=1009438 and Tyler Helfrich scores his 13th in Bakersfield 4-3 SO loss http://echl.com/stats/game-summary.php?game_id=9328

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDemento View Post
    Ehf_i just brought it up to see what others felt. I wasn't sure if it helped his chances or hurt them.
    Doc, I understand why you brought it up, but I am sure that you will agree that if York doesn't get playing time somewhere, he will be going nowhere.
    I was kind of hoping he would be thrown in with others being traded by Columbus.
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    and the journey continues for York...he's back in Springfield http://theahl.com/stats/transactions.php

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    What does "returned on loan from Columbus" mean? Is it that Columbus is loaning him to Springfield, or that Springfield had lent him to Columbus? New terminology for me...
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    What does "returned on loan from Columbus" mean? Is it that Columbus is loaning him to Springfield, or that Springfield had lent him to Columbus? New terminology for me...
    I'm pretty sure it has something to do with who is paying the player while he's with a certain club...salary, meal money, insurance. Here's a link if you want to try & find exactly what it means....http://www.phpa.com/en/content/home/...ing-agreement/

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    Quote Originally Posted by engineerhockeyfan View Post
    Doc, I understand why you brought it up, but I am sure that you will agree that if York doesn't get playing time somewhere, he will be going nowhere.
    I was kind of hoping he would be thrown in with others being traded by Columbus.
    I have zero confidence in the Columbus organization.
    Exactly-I still feel he is going to be thrown in as a player to be added in some trade soon. But of course i have no clue what that would mean for his chances to play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turk181 View Post
    I'm pretty sure it has something to do with who is paying the player while he's with a certain club...salary, meal money, insurance. Here's a link if you want to try & find exactly what it means....http://www.phpa.com/en/content/home/...ing-agreement/
    This kind of stuff-who pays for what and how much-often times is the key to where a player gets assigned and actually whether he sees ice time or not. I have been through this before and believe me I understand why most players have lawyers as agents who can decipher these incredibly complicated deals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDemento View Post
    Exactly-I still feel he is going to be thrown in as a player to be added in some trade soon. But of course i have no clue what that would mean for his chances to play.
    It would probably cut down on his Frequent Flyer miles which wouldn't be bad.

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    It would probably cut down on his Frequent Flyer miles which wouldn't be bad.
    Most NHL teams give goalies a much longer period of time to fine tune their game for the NHL game. I think York still has plenty of time to prove he belongs. But as EJF has noted several times-he sure needs to get some game experience somewhere. Columbus is a notoriously poorly run organization. This is why i suspect we might see York sent off somewhere else. Atlanta was like back when Brad Tapper chose them. They had their own ideas of what would work-and none of it did despite some very decent talent. I got to understand how some of this works during that period of time. The talent level when you look at the players who do make it up to the NHL is very consistent-of course excepting those with special talents who just are the superstars. Many decison are made with a checkbook and between lawyers instead of by performance on the ice. Players sometimes are not given the chance despite showing that they are a positive bonus for a team. I sincerely hope that York does start to get his shot-but would not be at all surprised if it takes several more years and is in a totally different location. He may just have to be patient.
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    good grief....York now back with Chicago.....Jeff Foss back with Milwaukee http://www.echl.com/echl-transactions-feb-26-p176260

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    Tyler Helfrich with his 14th. Interesting, TH is now wearing the A on his sweater. Maybe they rotate? Eric Burgdoerfer was wearing one of the A's...http://echl.com/stats/game-summary.php?game_id=9338

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    maybe Tyler texted Brut last night.....Bruuuuut scored HIS 14th in todays game (Brut's Birthday) http://echl.com/stats/game-summary.php?game_id=9334

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    Helfrich had his 3 game goal-scoring streak snapped but did pick up 2 assists in the win tonight. BTW, TH was not wearing the "A" tonight but E.Burgdoerfer was after not wearing it in last night's game. http://echl.com/stats/game-summary.php?game_id=9351

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    I think some teams rotate between a couple different assistant captains for road games. I forget where I read it, will try and find a link...

    EDIT: Well, here's the official rule book, talks about captains/assistant captains on page 7, but not what I read before about rotating them-that may have been a specific team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REDaero91 View Post
    I think some teams rotate between a couple different assistant captains for road games. I forget where I read it, will try and find a link...

    EDIT: Well, here's the official rule book, talks about captains/assistant captains on page 7, but not what I read before about rotating them-that may have been a specific team.
    except that when Helfrich wore the A it was a home game.

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    Bryan Brutlag selected as one of the, "Silver Skaters" for Gwinnett http://www.echl.com/second-set-of-si...ounced-p176276

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    Quote Originally Posted by REDaero91 View Post
    What does "returned on loan from Columbus" mean? Is it that Columbus is loaning him to Springfield, or that Springfield had lent him to Columbus? New terminology for me...
    I received this e-mail from PHPA regarding what it means to be, "on loan".......Thank you for your email. A player who is on an NHL contract (and many players in the AHL are technically on NHL contracts) is "assigned" or "re-assigned" from the NHL Club to the AHL (or ECHL) affiliate for example because they are on an NHL contract.

    However, if a player is on an AHL contract, and sent to the ECHL (for example), he would be "on loan" because he is on an AHL contract - not an ECHL contract.

    The nature of the player's contract and the team for which he is playing determines whether he is assigned or on loan.

    Hope this makes sense.

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    Thanks for the clarification!

    That's interesting about the switches in assistant captain...I really don't know why they do that.
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