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    Re: Declaring Our Independence: UAH 2010-11, Part the First

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    Douglas and Terry, check out the Penn State - Div I 2.0 thread. Do you have any insight as to the Penn State claim to the ACHA national championship in 1984 and runner-up in 1985? You two should remember our boys won in 1984 (against Miami) and lost to NDSU (ugh) in 1985. Was ACHA a different organization way back when from the one that ran the tournament we all attended at the VBCC? Curiously, PSU WAS the runner-up (to UAH) in 1983, and that is correctly listed. So, I'm a bit mystified by this. Want the Chargers to get their due.
    In 1983, the "U. S. National Club Ice Hockey Tournament" was hosted by the VBCC in Huntsville. It was billed as the "U. S. National Collegiate Club Hockey Championships" in 1984 and 1985 when also hosted in Huntsville.

    In 1983, UAH, OH U., Auburn U., U. of AZ, Miami of OH, and Penn State participated. UAH won the final against Penn State 5-4. I "think" I remember the UAH winning goal against Penn State as though it was yesterday. With little time left in regulation, the Penn State goalie had played an amazing game even though he had surrendered four goals. Then, he gets hit in the chest with a wicked shot that roles down his left arm, off his glove, onto the ice, across the line, and into the corner of the goal. It was almost in slow motion like in a movie.

    In 1984, UAH, IN U., OH U. , N. AZ U., Miami of OH, and Eastern MI U. participated. I believe wsp67326 is correct with the 3/3 and 3/5 games being transposed in the records. However, I'll provide more on that in a later post.

    In 1985, UAH, Ferris State, Miami of OH, N. Dakota State, N. AZ. U., and U. of DE participated. With N. Dakota State beating UAH in the final, the most memorable part of the weekend was N. Dakota State's skating cheerleaders.

    UAH also won the 1982 "club championship" tournament. I think those games were in CO and UAH defeated Penn State in one of the rounds there.
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    In 1983, the "U. S. National Club Ice Hockey Tournament" was hosted by the VBCC in Huntsville. It was billed as the "U. S. National Collegiate Club Hockey Championships" in 1984 and 1985 when also hosted in Huntsville.

    In 1983, UAH, OH U., Auburn U., U. of AZ, Miami of OH, and Penn State participated. UAH won the final against Penn State 5-4. I "think" I remember the UAH winning goal against Penn State as though it was yesterday. With little time left in regulation, the Penn State goalie had played an amazing game even though he had surrendered four goals. Then, he gets hit in the chest with a wicked shot that roles down his left arm, off his glove, onto the ice, across the line, and into the corner of the goal. It was almost in slow motion like in a movie.

    In 1984, UAH, IN U., OH U. , N. AZ U., Miami of OH, and Eastern MI U. participated. I believe wsp67326 is correct with the 3/3 and 3/5 games being transposed in the records. However, I'll provide more on that in a later post.

    In 1985, UAH, Ferris State, Miami of OH, N. Dakota State, N. AZ. U., and U. of DE participated. With N. Dakota State beating UAH in the final, the most memorable part of the weekend was N. Dakota State's skating cheerleaders.

    UAH also won the 1982 "club championship" tournament. I think those games were in CO and UAH defeated Penn State in one of the rounds there.
    My recollection, too. I KNOW these were the Club Hockey Championships. I cannot, for the life of me, figure out the how and why PSU claims to have won it in 1984 and Arizona in 1985 (PSU claims to have beaten the IceCats in 1984 and then the other way around in 1985); was there some alternate championship we didn't know about? This is bugging me (way too much, obviously). Any insight as to their claims would be appreciated, to say the least. We were there, buddy; the Chargers carried that trophy around twice at the VBCC. And I was so proud of our fans to give the Bison the ovation they deserved in 1985 (they won it all from then on until 1991, except for 1990, presumably when PSU "actually" won it). Check out the PSU thread I noted, if you can. Thanks for the specifics, too.

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    Re: Declaring Our Independence: UAH 2010-11, Part the First

    Quote Originally Posted by tnlong View Post
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    In 1984, UAH, IN U., OH U. , N. AZ U., Miami of OH, and Eastern MI U. participated. I believe wsp67326 is correct with the 3/3 and 3/5 games being transposed in the records. However, I'll provide more on that in a later post. ....
    1984 Tournament Pairings:
    3/3
    09:00 N. AZ v's E. MI
    11:30 IN v's OH
    17:30 Miami v's 09:00 loser
    20:00 UAH v's 11:30 loser
    3/4
    17:30 Miami v's 3/3 09:00 winner
    20:00 UAH v's 3/3 11:30 winner
    3/5
    15:00 bracket third place teams
    17:30 bracket second place teams
    20:00 bracket first place teams

    These pairings show how the 3/3 and 3/5 game results got switched in the records. However, I had to think on the subject for a while because I recall something strange happening sometime during that era regarding Miami of Ohio's equipment arriving late for some game in Huntsville. I do remember seeing Miami of Ohio playing in Huntsville on multiple occasions wearing pink jersey's. They had a terrible problem with their red fading onto heir white jerseys.

    Regarding tournament sites, I think the next-year site was determined at the end of each tournament with the winning team getting preference. ND State went on to also win championships in 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1993, & 1994. See http://achahockey.org/page.php?page_id=2187 to see how that meshes with the ACHA.

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    Re: Declaring Our Independence: UAH 2010-11, Part the First

    Quote Originally Posted by wsp67326 View Post
    My recollection, too. I KNOW these were the Club Hockey Championships. I cannot, for the life of me, figure out the how and why PSU claims to have won it in 1984 and Arizona in 1985 (PSU claims to have beaten the IceCats in 1984 and then the other way around in 1985); was there some alternate championship we didn't know about? This is bugging me (way too much, obviously).
    Given there was no formal organization (or at least 1 strong formal club organization) before the ACHA was formed, it's not a stretch to believe that there were multiple organizations with multiple championships during those seasons.

    FWIW, the Arizona site has the same info as PSU. Ari was runner up in 84 and winners in 85.
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    Re: Declaring Our Independence: UAH 2010-11, Part the First

    See
    http://home.hiwaay.net/~plong/*tnl_h...ages/programs/
    for scans of the 1983, 1984, and 1985 National Collegiate Club Hockey Championship program covers.

    Note that the 1984 program cover even has the regional champions identified. If PSU won any "championship" in AZ, it was without these regional champions.

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    ... FWIW, the Arizona site has the same info as PSU. Ari was runner up in 84 and winners in 85.
    And, North Dakota State would be interested in that claim.
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    Re: Declaring Our Independence: UAH 2010-11, Part the First

    It is beginning to look like there were two different "club" National Titles back then. Looks like UAH has claim to US National Collegiate Club Hockey Championships while Penn State has claim to the National Invitational Club Hockey Tournament. Looks like you had to win some league to be in the US National Collegiate Club Tournament, while the National Invitational Tournament was by invite.

    Kind of like hoops has the NCAA Bracket and the NIT Bracket.
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    Re: Declaring Our Independence: UAH 2010-11, Part the First

    Quote Originally Posted by tnlong View Post
    See
    http://home.hiwaay.net/~plong/*tnl_h...ages/programs/
    for scans of the 1983, 1984, and 1985 National Collegiate Club Hockey Championship program covers.

    Note that the 1984 program cover even has the regional champions identified. If PSU won any "championship" in AZ, it was without these regional champions.
    That logo! I was trying to remember what the Charger logo was prior to when UAH joined the NCAA. I had only seen it a couple of times during my time at the sports information office digging through the storage room.

    I feel kind of responsible for the date transposition for the 1984 tournament in the season-by-season results. It seemed whenever I did any records research prior to UAH joining the NCAA in 1986, the findings were sometimes sketchy (you'll note that many of the results from the early-to-mid 1980s didn't even have dates at all). I can't recall if I ever saw those 1983-85 game programs (it's been 14 years since I worked there)...perhaps I would've caught the error if they were around. I certainly didn't know any better.

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    Re: Declaring Our Independence: UAH 2010-11, Part the First

    Hey guys, I just got back from a trip so have been catching up on this discussion. Sorry I haven't responded to any of the questions directed partly at me. Terry's always good for answering those history questions anyway. Here's my contribution by way of some UAH flags. Notice that one of them shows UAH as 1982 National Champions also... Enjoy...

    *******http://www.knology.net/~dougeagan/UAHClubFlags.jpg********

    Has anyone pointed out some of the discrepancies over on the PSU thread? I haven't had the time to look at it yet and probably won't until this weekend.

    The cover Terry posted that includes Ferris State on it might be interesting to post on the Ferris State thread... you think?
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    Re: Declaring Our Independence: UAH 2010-11, Part the First

    For UAH and CHA fans... Here is a link to a random bunch of my photos on my site that I use for linking photos to the web. You'll find some from as far back as the Wayne State days up to some from this season... also a few shots of my grandson, JD Cousart #17, so you'll know who you're looking at and a few other random shots... even the UAH girls softball team shot of their league championship win. Enjoy...

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    Re: Declaring Our Independence: UAH 2010-11, Part the First

    Quote Originally Posted by Douglas View Post
    For UAH and CHA fans... Here is a link to a random bunch of my photos on my site that I use for linking photos to the web. You'll find some from as far back as the Wayne State days up to some from this season... also a few shots of my grandson, JD Cousart #17, so you'll know who you're looking at and a few other random shots... even the UAH girls softball team shot of their league championship win. Enjoy...

    Doug's Pics Here

    I'm working on setting up a web server with some low-res photos (fit for looking at on monitors, too low for good printing) for fans and parents to look through. Time is my biggest problem of course...
    Why aren't you using Flickr for this, or if not them, something like Zenfolio?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfmorris View Post
    Why aren't you using Flickr for this, or if not them, something like Zenfolio?GFM
    I have a Flickr account but I can send something to this "parking" site much faster than I can upload and link to Flickr... and I control this site.
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    Last D-1 games for Burkholder, Baxter, Ruffini, Koudys, Fairbanks, Bruni in Grand Rapids, MI this weekend.

    Hopefully the Chargers can play well on the road against another strong opponent. Ferris State coming off an impressive sweep at Alaska (no other NCAA team has done that in the last 3 years).

    Everybody healthy?

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    Last D-1 games for Burkholder, Baxter, Ruffini, Koudys, Fairbanks, Bruni in Grand Rapids, MI this weekend.

    Hopefully the Chargers can play well on the road against another strong opponent. Ferris State coming off an impressive sweep at Alaska (no other NCAA team has done that in the last 3 years).

    Everybody healthy?
    As far as I know, everyone's healthy.

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    Re: Declaring Our Independence: UAH 2010-11, Part the First

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    Coming to you this week from the John S. Glas Fieldhouse in Bemidji, Minnesota, a live broadcast performance of A Prairie Home Companion. With Special Guests, Rhonda Vincent & The Rage, jazz guitarist Sam Miltich, and the diva of the Dakotas, vocalist Andra Suchy. Also with us, the Royal Academy of Radio Acting; Tim Russell, Sue Scott, and Tom Keith, Richard Dworsky and The Guy's All-Star Shoe Band, and the latest News from Lake Wobegon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tnlong View Post
    http://prairiehome.publicradio.org/

    Know Your Ice from a Hole in the Ground

    Coming to you this week from the John S. Glas Fieldhouse in Bemidji, Minnesota, a live broadcast performance of A Prairie Home Companion. With Special Guests, Rhonda Vincent & The Rage, jazz guitarist Sam Miltich, and the diva of the Dakotas, vocalist Andra Suchy. Also with us, the Royal Academy of Radio Acting; Tim Russell, Sue Scott, and Tom Keith, Richard Dworsky and The Guy's All-Star Shoe Band, and the latest News from Lake Wobegon.
    That's awesome.

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    That's awesome.

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    Good first period from the guys last night, and then not for the other two. 5GA on 31SOG just won't cut it. Neither will allowing two SHG.

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