And no, thank you.
I would just like to take a moment to thank everyone in the U.S. college game I’ve come in contact with over the last four years and express how much I have enjoyed my four years as the parent of a student-athlete at St. Lawrence University. For as involved as I am in hockey, the truth is until my son Mike went to SLU my exposure to the college game was extremely limited. Who’s kidding who, it was almost non-existent.
It has been a wonderful four-year ride for him and our family and I am going to miss it very much.
I had heard all sorts of things about the college game before I got there, how the stickwork was terrible because the players wears full facial protection or how there was no respect because the players couldn’t fight or how there was no hitting or whatever. But after four years of not missing too many of my son’s games, home or away, I discovered the hockey was terrific. I didn’t see the stickwork I was warned about and on the lack of respect issue, I think we’ve seen that it exists in all levels of hockey, even where fighting is permitted. The hockey I saw over the four years, for the most part, was fast and exciting and physical. I loved that there were very few scrums after the whistles and the action went up and down the ice with breathtaking speed and games were usually complete in a just a shade over two hours.
I generally don’t get too engaged in the whole college vs. major junior debate because they are, for me, apples and oranges for the most part. Both have their inherent strengths and weakness. The vast majority of high-end kids now end up in major junior and that's fine. The CHL is a terrific league with a lot of high end talent, but it’s a league for 16 to 20 year olds. College hockey is a league for 18 to 25 year olds. And it's still a great development league as well. It was an easy decision for my son. He probably wasn’t physically mature enough even at age 18 to play major junior, though he did have the opportunity and offer to do so. So he rolled the dice on getting a scholarship and was fortunate enough to get one solitary scholarship offer to attend SLU (Thank you Chris Wells and Bob Prier. )
My son was a 20-year-old freshman and I know that sometimes is an issue that’s debated on these boards and elsewhere and I’m obviously biased but I don’t think college hockey would be any better off if were limited to true freshmen right out of high school. Not everyone is ready at 18, for the college experience in general and college hockey in particular. I’m not afraid to say my son couldn’t have competed at this level any sooner than age 20, but he still went on to have a pretty good college career both individually, at least they tell me 49 goals and 100-plus career points is a worthy achievement, and team wise (one regular season championship and an NCAA tournament appearance as a freshman, three trips to Albany in the ECAC tournament) too. As I said, I’m baised but I believe the 20 year old freshman can offer a lot to the college game.
The truth was when my son first started, I wasn’t even sure he could play at this level. I remember walking out of Schneider Arena at PC in his first ever road game, after he was directly responsible for giving up the winning goal, and thinking he may never get back into the lineup. But that first year ended up being something special, my son’s large freshmen class performed well and had the honor of playing with three great and special senior Saints – Drew Bagnall, Kyle Rank and Max Taylor – who epitomized what class and character and leadership and being great student-athletes were all about.
There were all sorts of hilites too numerous to mention that year, but the win over BU in the Dartmouth tourney – my son scored the GWG on a penalty shot in OT on John Curry and I was back at TSN watching it on TV because of WJC commitments, one of only two games I missed in his freshman year – and the come from behind win over Dartmouth in the ECAC consolation game in Albany – he scored two third period goal, including the GWG – in a victory that put SLU in the NCAAs were probably as good as it gets. My fears of him not being able to play at this level were gone, but the great thing about his college career was that every game was a challenge. There were never any easy nights. The ECAC is nothing if not competitive.
I could go on and on about so many specific instances – good and bad and pretty much everything in my kid’s sophomore year was bad, can you say jinx? LOL – but when it’s all said and done it will, for me anyway, be about the people and places I got to see.
Trust me when I tell you the only way I was getting to an Ivy League school was to watch my son play there. I love so many of the rinks and venues in the ECAC. There’s nothing quite like the Lynah Skating Rink for the whole college experience and Cornell is always a force to be reckoned with there. I absolutely love the unique architecture of the Whale at Yale and Hobey Baker Rink at Princeton. It was always a special night going into Bright Arena, where SLU supporters inevitably outnumbered Harvard fans. Thompson Arena in Hanover is warm and inviting and as good a place to watch a game as anywhere and Dartmouth is a beautiful campus. To be able walk around the campuses of Colgate or Princeton or Yale was special. I was able to see a Big Red Freakout for myself at RPI and I loved going into the hostile environment of Cheel Arena and nothing quite matches up to the animosity or intensity of Clarkson-SLU. I have come to love Providence, a hidden gem of a city, and my geographical knowledge of New England and the northeastern U.S. has never been better. But thank God for GPS, especially in Boston, where you learn the hard lesson that the Tobin Bride is not on I-95 but I-93. LOL.
I was like a little kid for those special out of conference games in buildings I grew up hearing about – Yost Arena in Michigan and Munn Arena at Michigan State – and I had my other favorites too. The Whittemore Center in UNH, although I liked how some of the kids called it Lake Whittemore because it’s so huge an ice surface, the Gut in Burlington, VT, a great old style barn, and Agganis at BU, the nicest new-style college rink I was in.
I came in contact with so many great people, far too numerous to mention. But to make the friends we did in Canton, especially the Phalons, and to spend as much time roaming the road with other SLU parents, especially my running mate Jeremiah Cunningham, well, it doesn’t get any better than that. The SLU fans are a special breed themselves, supportive and passionate and it was a pleasure to get to know Got 6, critsports, hockeyplayer1015, TimU, Muskieman, the Tupper Lake crew and so many others.
Ditto for the fellas, as they like to call themselves, Mike’s roomies in the suite (Flanny, Patty, Weaves, Jeremiah, Teese and D Kells) and all the good kids, past and present, who put on the scarlet and brown in the cozy confines of Appleton Arena and everyone involved with the SLU hockey program, from Joe and all the coaches to the behind the scenes staff to the Friends of St. Lawrence boosters who do such a wonderful job of looking after our kids like they’re their own.
I got to meet so many other great parents of opposing players – Mario Trabucco’s dad, Sean McMonagle’s dad and grandfather, Mike Backman (father of Sean), Bill Gillam (father of Josh), amongst many others – and my college text buddies, Don McIntyre, whose son David starred at Colgate, Dan Whitney, whose son Sean is at Cornell, and Tom Giffin, whose son Charlie also played at SLU. And the many media guys, Dan and Max at the WDT, Ken Schott in Schenectady, Brian Sullivan, Gladdy, Adam and so many others. And thanks to USCHO, INCH and CHN for providing tremendous coverage for the college game.
It was always fun to scoreboard watch and see how my son’s former St. Mike’s Buzzer junior teammates – Brayden Irwin in Vermont, Brendan Smith in Wisconsin, Kevin Schmidt in Bowling Green, Louie Caporousso and Andrew Cogliano in Michigan, John Scrymgeour and Freddie Cassiani at Lake Superior State, Michael Forgione and Andrew Rygiel at Geneseo, amongst others – or how the local Whitby kids (Scott Freeman and Louke Oakley at Clarkson, Dan Nicholls at Cornell) were making out in their college careers.
There were so many good times. Some tough ones, too, because hockey and life at this level isn’t always easy or fun, but on balance it was just such a wonderful experience.
I was disappointed that SLU lost three times in the ECAC semifinal and never won an ECAC title, but on the bright side, Mike’s college career did not come to an end losing to Clarkson at Appleton in the first round of the playoffs and that was less than two minutes away from being reality. That GWG goal puck, Mike’s last at Appleton, will be a valued memento.
I don't think there's any question my son is a better player now than when he started at SLU and he's most certainly a better, more mature young man and in a short time, he's going to have a degree and perhaps an opportunity to keep the playing the game for a bit yet, at what level or where we will see in due course. I am not sure it gets any better than that as a parent.
I hope none of this comes across as self serving. I’m feeling a little sentimental about the end of a phase in our family’s life and when I get like that, I tend to write about it…occupational hazard, I guess. And I really did want to thank everyone, including those who grace these boards and do so (for the most part LOL) with maturity and insight and entertainment. It’s been a terrific ride and just a wonderful four years. So thanks to everyone. I’ve got some roots in the college game now and while I won’t have the direct involvement of being a parent of a player, I won’t be going cold turkey, that’s for sure.
So all the best to everyone, enjoy the games and thanks.
Last edited by Bob McKenzie; 03-30-2010 at 03:41 PM.
And no, thank you.
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God, that was fun...
That was a fun read.-- thanks
Yeah, we'd just have refs, and we know how well that would turn out.
FERRIS STATE UNIVERSITY: 2012 FROZEN FOUR
God, that was fun...
Thanks for the post, Bob.
And any college hockey shout-outs you want to give on TSN are always appreciated.
Nice post! It's great to see a parent enjoy the game as much as us fans.
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great post Bob...
im still a rpi fan but now respect slu hockey more
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Nice post. You've reiterated, from a parent point of view, the feelings I have for college hockey. And remember, just because your son has graduated doesn't mean you can't show up at a college game in the future!
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USCHO should ask you the permission to publish this post on their front page. Excellent job.
Slap Shot - 444 might want to consider a restraining order.
dggoddard - Minnesota is THE ELITE Program in all of college hockey.
wasmania - you have to be the very best to get ice time with the great gophers!
Hall of Fame Post!!!!!
Hope to see you still commenting on the USCHO boards. It is a pleasure to have someone of your stature mingle with us peons. I enjoy your work at TSN and the NHL Network.
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That's one of the best posts I have ever read on this board. I just can't add anything else, other than to say, GOD, I love this game.
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well said, sir...
having read this, i wish i had had the chance to talk a little hockey with you when slu made the trip to portland this season... (a college memory that both you and mike may want to soon forget )
obviously, from a parent's view, this takes on a much greater meaning, but i think you captured quite a bit of why all of us love the college game, and speaking for myself, why i prefer it over the pro game.
congratulations to mike on a fine career, and best of luck as both he and your family move on to the next chapter.
My Wisconsin season tickets are in the parent's section and over the years, we've had the opportunity to get to know a few of them on a very casual basis. When we first got those seats, I was a little in awe thinking that somehow these people were different than me due to the pedigree of their son's hockey ability. Over the years as new parents came and went, I began to realize that they were just like me, proud of their sons and any accomplishments, critical of a bad pass here and there, living and dying just a little inside with every play. Just like I do watching my own son play youth hockey.
It was brought home to me this past season when Blake Geoffrion got his first(I believe) collegiate hat trick. Danny Geoffrion happened to be sitting next to me that night and after two goals, he was sitting a little closer to the edge of his chair and almost willing the puck to go into the net. When the third goal went in, you could see how pleased and proud he was. He got right on the phone to report it to family members far and wide.
I had the opportunity to talk to Blake two days later at a Skate With The Badgers event that my son always goes to and I told him about sitting next to his dad for that game and how proud he was. I told him that it never ends for parents no matter how accomplished their son becomes or what stage it's on. He looked me right in the eye and said thanks a lot for telling him that.
Glad you had a great parental experience and I appreciate hearing about it in this post. I've never wanted to pry too much with the Badger parents and tend to have more general conversations with them, so your post was interesting and informative.
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Best of luck to your and your family.
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Very well put. I was at the RPI/SLU game where you were signing your book, but didn't get a chance to go down and get a copy. Perhaps I will be able to find it in a bookstore.
Although your son has graduated, I certainly hope you will enjoy more college hockey in the future. I'm sure the SLU community would be more than happy to keep you in their house as a lifetime friend, seeing as how your son graced that team with his presence. I know I feel the same way about the parents of RPI player alumni.
Excellent story. Thanks for sharing it with the rest of us.
Thanks for the insight, Bob. All the best for you and Mike in the future.
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