Norwich Women's Hockey

[obserbear]

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Congrats to the Cadets and Coach Bolding on their 3-2 win over Midd at Kenyon this evening!

[valiantfan08]

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Looking forward to the trip to Norwich this weekend (I wish the Valiants were playing for the division)

If your asking me... Norwich win last night puts them in the NCAA tournament regardless of what they do in the ECAC East tourney.

WINS vs Elmira,Midd,Amherst,Plattsburgh not sure any other team has those quality wins.

[HockeyDman]

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Looking forward to the trip to Norwich this weekend (I wish the Valiants were playing for the division)

If your asking me... Norwich win last night puts them in the NCAA tournament regardless of what they do in the ECAC East tourney.

WINS vs Elmira,Midd,Amherst,Plattsburgh not sure any other team has those quality wins.

And their only losses were to nationally ranked teams: Plattsburgh, RIT & Trinity. I don't think it puts them in the tournament, but it will definitely make a case for them because you still have three very strong teams in the ECAC West and if RIT doesn't come out as champion who knows what could happen?

By far the ECAC West is the strongest Conference in DIII hockey IMHO.

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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And their only losses were to nationally ranked teams: Plattsburgh, RIT & Trinity. I don't think it puts them in the tournament, but it will definitely make a case for them because you still have three very strong teams in the ECAC West and if RIT doesn't come out as champion who knows what could happen?

By far the ECAC West is the strongest Conference in DIII hockey IMHO.

Norwich's win last night helps.

However, remember their winning percentage is hurt by the five games not counting. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Middlebury and Plattsburgh's winning percentages are still better than Norwich.

What Norwich did do last night was really help its common opponents with the Middlebury win and obviously the head to head win over the Panthers.

Norwich probably moved up to third in the regional rankings with the win.

[obserbear]

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By far the ECAC West is the strongest Conference in DIII hockey IMHO.

While the ECAC-West may be stronger at the top right now (KRACH RIT 1, Plattsburgh 2, Elmira 8) they also feature more softies than the NESCAC (KRACH Chatham 47, Buffalo State 37, Cortland 36, Potsdam 32). Granted the NESCAC has its weak sisters (KRACH Wesleyan 41, Williams 34 and Colby 33), but in a 9 team conference, as both are, I think playing tough games more frequently makes the NESCAC a better conference than ECAC-West (and I know Buffalo State beat Elmira).

[Plugger]

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While the ECAC-West may be stronger at the top right now (KRACH RIT 1, Plattsburgh 2, Elmira 8) they also feature more softies than the NESCAC (KRACH Chatham 47, Buffalo State 37, Cortland 36, Potsdam 32). Granted the NESCAC has its weak sisters (KRACH Wesleyan 41, Williams 34 and Colby 33), but in a 9 team conference, as both are, I think playing tough games more frequently makes the NESCAC a better conference than ECAC-West (and I know Buffalo State beat Elmira).

I completely agree. That being said, the ECAC West is coming along with Neuman and Oswego improving this year, and hopefully for the years to come. The difference has been the consistent strength of NESCAC year over year.

[nbound]

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And their only losses were to nationally ranked teams: Plattsburgh, RIT & Trinity. I don't think it puts them in the tournament, but it will definitely make a case for them because you still have three very strong teams in the ECAC West and if RIT doesn't come out as champion who knows what could happen?

By far the ECAC West is the strongest Conference in DIII hockey IMHO.

As of today's polls
For # of teams in top ten.....yes
BUT
using Krach's top 25 teams
NESCAC .666 of it's teams are in the top 25
NCHA ..636 "
ECACE .555 " (not counting HC, ST Mike or HC)
ECACW .500
MIAC .200 "

using Rutter top 25 teams
NCHA .727 of teams in top 25
NESAC .555 "
ECECW .500 "
ECACE .333 " (including ST mike, HC and At Ans) .222 not including those 3 teams
MIAC .300 "

Averaging the two polls
NCHA .681
NESAC .6105
ECACW .500
ECACE including Rutters with the 3 teams .444, Rutters w/o .388
MIAC .250

[HockeyDman]

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As of today's polls
For # of teams in top ten.....yes
BUT
using Krach's top 25 teams
NESCAC .666 of it's teams are in the top 25
NCHA ..636 "
ECACE .555 " (not counting HC, ST Mike or HC)
ECACW .500
MIAC .200 "

using Rutter top 25 teams
NCHA .727 of teams in top 25
NESAC .555 "
ECECW .500 "
ECACE .333 " (including ST mike, HC and At Ans) .222 not including those 3 teams
MIAC .300 "

Averaging the two polls
NCHA .681
NESAC .6105
ECACW .500
ECACE including Rutters with the 3 teams .444, Rutters w/o .388
MIAC .250

Tough to argue with those numbers and the fact the ECAC West and NESAC are the only ones with National Titles. Is this the year for the NCHA or ECAC E?

[nbound]

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Tough to argue with those numbers and the fact the ECAC West and NESAC are the only ones with National Titles. Is this the year for the NCHA or ECAC E?

The NCHA may never win a National title, but, it will not diminish the fact that the NCHA conference as a whole is among the top conferences in Dlll as is the NESAC.

[5 4 Fighting]

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As of today's polls
For # of teams in top ten.....yes
BUT
using Krach's top 25 teams
NESCAC .666 of it's teams are in the top 25
NCHA ..636 "
ECACE .555 " (not counting HC, ST Mike or HC)
ECACW .500
MIAC .200 "

using Rutter top 25 teams
NCHA .727 of teams in top 25
NESAC .555 "
ECECW .500 "
ECACE .333 " (including ST mike, HC and At Ans) .222 not including those 3 teams
MIAC .300 "

Averaging the two polls
NCHA .681
NESAC .6105
ECACW .500
ECACE including Rutters with the 3 teams .444, Rutters w/o .388
MIAC .250

Am I missing something here? These #'s only speak to the parity in each division and not the strength of said division as they compare to others...right?

[gojackets]

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Am I missing something here? These #'s only speak to the parity in each division and not the strength of said division as they compare to others...right?

I know it's hard for you to stomach a conference being considered weaker than another. The point is that there is a decent chance the #8 team in the NCHA Could beat the #1 seed in the playoffs. That would never happen in the ecac west

[5 4 Fighting]

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I know it's hard for you to stomach a conference being considered weaker than another. The point is that there is a decent chance the #8 team in the NCHA Could beat the #1 seed in the playoffs. That would never happen in the ecac west

Whilst your speaking for nbound perhaps you can elaborate then on his previous posting that..."...the NCHA as a whole is among the top conferences in DIII....."

Is among them in what? Parity, competition, travel distance to opponents ... er what?

[gojackets]

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, travel distance to opponents ... er what?

they're definitely number 1 there

[dontyelldad]

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they're definitely number 1 there

Boy, yeah!!

I did that math, and to say "our college dollars go further in the MidWest" was an understatement!!!

Long, LONG bus rides!

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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So...

About those Cadets....

It's been nice to see how much this team has grown from Mid-October to now. Even with the loss of Kayla Lascelle on defense, the young d-core has bucked up and played well in the face of adversity.

Caitie Banfield has transitioned nicely onto the blue line and opened up a forward spot that has been a highly contested battle for that spot in the lineup.

Cindy Fortin has taken her game to another level in between the pipes as she so often does in the second half of the season over the course of her four-year career.

The Cadets have set themselves up nicely to host the ECAC East tournament for the first time and avoid a potential NEC/Manhattanville game until the finals. They'll also have the opportunity to get revenge on Salve Regina in the semifinals if they do end up meeting as well.

Hopefully they don't fall to the same fate Manhattanville has the past two seasons that they won the regular season title.

The line of Julie Fortier/Melissa Rundlett/Renee Lortie being put together has been a HUGE part of the winning streak. These three have just clicked and they seem to be getting better with every game. Norwich for the first time has a true set of top-six forwards where any one of them can hurt you.

Big game this weekend against Manhattanville. Gotta get the Valiant monkey off their back and get a W. Manhattanville leads the all-time series 6-1.