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    Quote Originally Posted by bronconick View Post
    I'm convinced. Country music is the bane of society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    The deputy walked into an ambush situation and was killed in the line of duty trying to save others.

    The good guys don't always win.
    But Ive Been told they are the solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    The deputy walked into an ambush situation and was killed in the line of duty trying to save others.

    The good guys don't always win.
    How do you know 50 people wouldnít have been killed if he didnít walk in?

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    Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Keep The Calendar At Zero

    Quote Originally Posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
    But Ive Been told they are the solution.
    They're in control of the situation now aren't they?

    They can't be everywhere all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    ...and some in the facility were reportedly also at Route 91 in Vegas.
    That's some Final Destination type coincidence.

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    Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Keep The Calendar At Zero

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    So what happens after we ban guns and have a Toronto style attack? You sound just like one of those people who is afraid of the caravan.
    Given that your solution is to do nothing, and just accept mass killings of people, you must be really enjoying these recent attacks.

    Every solution that is proposed, you say that it won't do any good. So we should do nothing.

    Do you have something against people that you want them do die like this?

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    Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Keep The Calendar At Zero

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    How do you know 50 people wouldnít have been killed if he didnít walk in?
    If he was going to manage to get off well over 50 more rounds before running out, then there are some serious changes that could happen with magazine limits and shooting rate changes.

    That's a real solution that WOULD lower how many rounds could get off in a given amount of time, thus reducing the number of deaths.

    Easy solution.

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    Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Keep The Calendar At Zero

    Reportedly there were 6 off duty police officers in the bar at the time of the shooting, but none of them were armed.

    Sheriff said some parents have related that at least some of the off-duty officers placed themselves between the shooter and their children to shield them. That takes an enormous amount of courage and presence of mind in such a situation.

    Not important in the larger scheme of things, but the Ventura County Sheriff who is the lead on this case was set to retire tomorrow, although the new Sheriff doesn't officially take office until Jan. 7. He stated the officer killed was set to retire in the next year as well.
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    Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Keep The Calendar At Zero

    Quote Originally Posted by alfablue View Post
    ... with magazine limits ...
    CA already has 10 round limits on magazines.

    (Yes, my XDM Compact magazines, 11 or 16 round, are illegal in CA so I don't go to CA.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by alfablue View Post
    If he was going to manage to get off well over 50 more rounds before running out, then there are some serious changes that could happen with magazine limits and shooting rate changes.

    That's a real solution that WOULD lower how many rounds could get off in a given amount of time, thus reducing the number of deaths.

    Easy solution.
    Jerry Miculek on line one for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alfablue View Post
    Given that your solution is to do nothing, and just accept mass killings of people, you must be really enjoying these recent attacks.

    Every solution that is proposed, you say that it won't do any good. So we should do nothing.

    Do you have something against people that you want them do die like this?
    Wrong. The solution is for us to have a better society where people donít want to cause harm to as many random, innocent people as they can. You and others are afraid to front up to the real issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    Wrong. The solution is for us to have a better society where people donít want to cause harm to as many random, innocent people as they can. You and others are afraid to front up to the real issue.
    Well, the shooter is a former Marine, and we all know that the military is (or at least was) very serious about know your target before firing.

    If this person had PTSD, what made him snap? Too much TSwift and not enough twang to the country music? Obnoxious frat bros who can't hold their liquor? Taking Mark Chesnutt's 1992 hit to heart?

    Let's get to the underlying issues, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aparch View Post
    Well, the shooter is a former Marine, and we all know that the military is (or at least was) very serious about know your target before firing.

    If this person had PTSD, what made him snap? Too much TSwift and not enough twang to the country music? Obnoxious frat bros who can't hold their liquor? Taking Mark Chesnutt's 1992 hit to heart?

    Let's get to the underlying issues, yes.
    Iím going to sound like some sort of hippy saying this, but I really think our current lifestyle is killing us. Too much inactivity and time in front of screens. I really have no idea how we go away from that though.

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    Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Keep The Calendar At Zero

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ornia-bar.html

    He was dressed in all-black and let off at least 30 shots from a pistol with an extended magazine
    Witnesses said Long also let off smoke grenades to confuse the terrified crowds
    In April, police and mental health specialists were called to Long's home after a disturbance but they cleared him instead of having him committed
    Illegal magazine in CA.

    And as I've said, our mental health care system is broken in this country, ... and I've only dealt with the elderly/dementia aspects of it, not the dangerous/criminal aspects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    So what happens after we ban guns and have a Toronto style attack? You sound just like one of those people who is afraid of the caravan.
    It turns out there is a dangerous caravan after all, it's white guys going around the country committing mass shootings.

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    Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Keep The Calendar At Zero

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    Wrong. The solution is for us to have a better society where people donít want to cause harm to as many random, innocent people as they can. You and others are afraid to front up to the real issue.
    And when you can tell me that is an actual possibility you will have a point. Since that isnt possible either come up with a real solution or shut up already. It isnt like we dont know what you really think Drew, trust us the fact you cant even parse the language of specific ideas or the fact that you spew Right Wing diarrhea every time this comes up tells everyone what they need to know about you.

    Thoughts and prayers though to you and yours...must be quite the struggle.
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    Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Keep The Calendar At Zero

    Quote Originally Posted by dave122793 View Post
    It turns out there is a dangerous caravan after all, it's white guys going around the country committing mass shootings.
    Yep...White People are the real terrorists in this country. White Men most especially.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    Yep...White People are the real terrorists in this country. White Men most especially.
    You and Scoob gonna be cellmates?


    (I've never met either so I'm guessing.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ornia-bar.html



    Illegal magazine in CA.

    And as I've said, our mental health care system is broken in this country, ... and I've only dealt with the elderly/dementia aspects of it, not the dangerous/criminal aspects.
    Guns and ammo travel across state lines as easily as cars do. A majority of guns found to have been used in crimes in California come from Nevada. This is exactly why we need stronger federal laws in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave122793 View Post
    Guns and ammo travel across state lines as easily as cars do. A majority of guns found to have been used in crimes in California come from Nevada. This is exactly why we need stronger federal laws in place.
    Same source:

    The weapon was legally purchased in Ventura County but Long modified its magazine
    Ventura County is in CA.
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