0 Days Since Last Shooting: Keep The Calendar At Zero

[Handyman]

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Did you know that at least until 2016, Vermont didn't have a conceal carry law? As far as I know, that hasn't changed. No prohibition against carrying a concealed weapon. No requirement that you go through the conceal carry permit process required in most other states.

From 2011-2016, or a period of six years, there were 420 deaths in Vermont caused by gunshot wound. 373 were suicides. 47 were referred to as "homicides," which means the trigger was pulled by someone else. But that includes people shot by police, accidental shootings like hunting accidents, etc...

Too be fair there are like 1000 people in Vermont...2000 if you count tourists

[5mn_Major]

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Did you know that at least until 2016, Vermont didn't have a conceal carry law? As far as I know, that hasn't changed. No prohibition against carrying a concealed weapon. No requirement that you go through the conceal carry permit process required in most other states.

From 2011-2016, or a period of six years, there were 420 deaths in Vermont caused by gunshot wound. 373 were suicides. 47 were referred to as "homicides," which means the trigger was pulled by someone else. But that includes people shot by police, accidental shootings like hunting accidents, etc...

Vermont has a violent crime rate of 158 per 100,000 people and Alaska has a violent crime rate of 804 per 100,000. Vermont has a gun death rate of 11 per 100,000 and Alaska a gun death rate of 23 per 100,000.

Alaska has the most comparable population to Vermont and doesn't require a permit for conceal. Vermont is on another plane of civility and safety compared to gun states.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-up/359395002/

[SJHovey]

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Do you do cannonballs from the trampoline into the hot tub?

Trust me, that idea certainly percolated through the mind of at least one of our girls.

[SJHovey]

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Vermont has a violent crime rate of 158 per 100,000 people and Alaska has a violent crime rate of 804 per 100,000. Vermont has a gun death rate of 11 per 100,000 and Alaska a gun death rate of 23 per 100,000.

Alaska has the most comparable population to Vermont and doesn't require a permit for conceal. Vermont is on another plane of civility and safety compared to gun states.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-up/359395002/

Do you mean that if people aren't complete psychopathic azzholes to one another that can determine whether gun violence is a problem or not???

[5mn_Major]

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Do you mean that if people aren't complete psychopathic azzholes to one another that can determine whether gun violence is a problem or not???

People can be 'psychopathic azzholes' and without others being killed for it. Problem is that they are azzholes with a gun and that causes violence and death rates go up.

Montana and Mississippi are not much better than Alaska. North Dakota has a violent crime rate 50% higher than Vermont.

[St. Clown]

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Vermont has a violent crime rate of 158 per 100,000 people and Alaska has a violent crime rate of 804 per 100,000. Vermont has a gun death rate of 11 per 100,000 and Alaska a gun death rate of 23 per 100,000.

Alaska has the most comparable population to Vermont and doesn't require a permit for conceal. Vermont is on another plane of civility and safety compared to gun states.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-up/359395002/

You are not comparing apples to apples when you compare Alaska to any other part of the nation in regards to culture. There are environment and climate factors at play in that state that will mess with a person's mind. I'm not excusing what people do to each other there, but Alaska is simply not comparable to any of the Contiguous 48. There are deep-rooted social issues that may as well transport most people living in the Bush to the 1880s.

[Jimjamesak]

You are not comparing apples to apples when you compare Alaska to any other part of the nation in regards to culture. There are environment and climate factors at play in that state that will mess with a person's mind. I'm not excusing what people do to each other there, but Alaska is simply not comparable to any of the Contiguous 48. There are deep-rooted social issues that may as well transport most people living in the Bush to the 1880s.

BS, Alaska is very comparable.

Anchorage has half of Alaska’s population and violent crime rate of 1144 per 100k.

[rufus]

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Vermont has a violent crime rate of 158 per 100,000 people and Alaska has a violent crime rate of 804 per 100,000. Vermont has a gun death rate of 11 per 100,000 and Alaska a gun death rate of 23 per 100,000.

Alaska has the most comparable population to Vermont and doesn't require a permit for conceal. Vermont is on another plane of civility and safety compared to gun states.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-up/359395002/

Because they're a bastion of socialism.

[5mn_Major]

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You are not comparing apples to apples when you compare Alaska to any other part of the nation in regards to culture. There are environment and climate factors at play in that state that will mess with a person's mind. I'm not excusing what people do to each other there, but Alaska is simply not comparable to any of the Contiguous 48. There are deep-rooted social issues that may as well transport most people living in the Bush to the 1880s.

See JJ. Would think he should know.

Your turn. Time to prove that conceal makes society better using logic that actually meets the standards you apply to others.

[SJHovey]

See JJ. Would think he should know.

Your turn. Time to prove that conceal makes society better using logic that actually meets the standards you apply to others.

Can’t speak to every conceal carry law, but Minnesota’s has two features I think are positive. First, they require permit holders undergo training on the safe handling of guns. Second, they provide law enforcement with a list of people who may be carrying as officers carry out their work.

[joecct]

Can’t speak to every conceal carry law, but Minnesota’s has two features I think are positive. First, they require permit holders undergo training on the safe handling of guns. Second, they provide law enforcement with a list of people who may be carrying as officers carry out their work.

The CC people are officers carrying out their work? Would you like to rephrase that, laddie?

[alfablue]

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So with the recent shooting in a very crowded market in France- just think if that happened in the US with an semi-auto weapon that had the kind of magazines used for similar shootings in the US.

6 rounds max and fire rate limit makes a VERY good first step. Assuming that CC isn't going away.

[SJHovey]

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The CC people are officers carrying out their work? Would you like to rephrase that, laddie?

Or, you could just re-read my post. Today's hint: CC permit applications have to be made to law enforcement here, where I'm at. As police interact with citizens on a daily basis, it's kind of handy to have a list of people who have applied to carry a gun.

[The Sicatoka]

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The solution starts with eliminating conceal.

Open carry would be better? I disagree.

[St. Clown]

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See JJ. Would think he should know.

Your turn. Time to prove that conceal makes society better using logic that actually meets the standards you apply to others.

If you think I've been in support of the current gun laws in this country, then you've clearly spent too much time grinding your axe instead of paying attention. I just said that AK isn't really a comparable state to the rest of the USA. People turn wrong when you blot out the Sun for a week or two at a time, and then six months later you don't blot it out at night.