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For the record, I have no financial interests in Saudi Arabia (or Russia, for that matter). Any suggestion that I have is just more FAKE NEWS (of which there is plenty)!
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Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View PostFor the record, I have no financial interests in Saudi Arabia (or Russia, for that matter). Any suggestion that I have is just more FAKE NEWS (of which there is plenty)!
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Originally posted by JF_Gophers View PostSelling arms to them isnt a financial interest?**NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.
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Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View PostFor the record, I have no financial interests in Saudi Arabia (or Russia, for that matter). Any suggestion that I have is just more FAKE NEWS (of which there is plenty)!
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Originally posted by SanTropezMay your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.Originally posted by bigblue_dlI don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..Originally posted by KeplerWhen the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
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Originally posted by 5mn_Major View PostNorth Dakota's Native American population put Heitkamp over the top to win last time. The North Dakota GOP is now stopping them from voting.
The North Dakota GOP have instituted a law that made illegal any voter ID that uses a PO box. Most NA reservations do not have street addresses. The population living there can only get mail by PO Box and the law affects NAs at twice the rate of the overall population.
The courts overturned the law. So the North Dakota legislature said that you can use a provisional ballot if you don't have a street address on your ID. But the provisional ballot will never be counted unless you can later show a street address on your ID - so its really the same. This time the courts let it go.
Anyone from North Dakota want to chime in on this one?
As for the specific North Dakota case, I guess my primary criticism would have to do with the 8th Circuit and US Supreme Court decisions as applied to this election. The District Court set aside the law as unconstitutional. The 8th Circuit or the Supremes have every right to disagree with and reverse that decision. However, I don't think that it's ideal to do so after early voting has already started. But that's part of the problem with our endless election cycle. When we modify the voting rules to basically let people vote over an extended cycle of time, sometimes the work of the Courts is going to change the rules mid-stream.That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.
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Originally posted by 5mn_Major View PostNorth Dakota's Native American population put Heitkamp over the top to win last time. The North Dakota GOP is now stopping them from voting.
The North Dakota GOP have instituted a law that made illegal any voter ID that uses a PO box. Most NA reservations do not have street addresses. The population living there can only get mail by PO Box and the law affects NAs at twice the rate of the overall population.
The courts overturned the law. So the North Dakota legislature said that you can use a provisional ballot if you don't have a street address on your ID. But the provisional ballot will never be counted unless you can later show a street address on your ID - so its really the same. This time the courts let it go.
Anyone from North Dakota want to chime in on this one?a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.
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Is there any evidence of voter fraud in North Dakota? And I mean real voter fraud, where people actively broke the law to vote. (not what Faux calls voter fraud) If not, why even put this stupid law into place?
That is why, while your explanation is well thought out and probably true, it is completely naive and/or disingenuous. If anyone actually believed North Dakota was putting this law in place because of the problems that can arise from PO Box addresses we might be inclined to believe you. The problem is since this, as usual, is wrapped in the veil of "preventing wide spread voter fraud" even though no credible evidence has been put forth to prove such fraud exists we all know the real reason behind it. Unless you think it is just a coincidence that one party seems to do this in a bunch of states and it always seems to disproportionally block certain groups from voting who just so happen to be people who dont vote for said party.
See if North Dakota was truly doing this "for the integrity of the system" as they imply with their BS rhetoric about voter fraud, they would have also figured out a way to still get the Reservation Citizens an acceptable ID. It shouldnt be that hard to figure out a way to make it work. They didnt do that, because they dont actually care whether these people vote or not. Well that isnt true, they certainly would rather they didnt vote...but you get my point.
Now I know you are going to post some well thought out and probably very true statement as it pertains to you. I am not accusing you of being like the NDGOP. You probably do have legit reasons why this is needed and I will accept them. In ding so though I ask you to acknowledge that your reasoning is not why the laws were put in place and everyone knows it.
FYI according to heritage.org there has been 3 verifiable cases of voter fraud.
edit: There is a way to get an address:
The state government says that residents without a street ID should contact their county's 911 coordinator to sign up for a free street address and request a letter confirming that address.
Yeah that sounds like a nice efficient way to solve this problem. How many Natives live in NoDak these days?Last edited by Handyman; 10-16-2018, 09:17 AM."It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
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Originally posted by Handyman View PostIs there any evidence of voter fraud in North Dakota? And I mean real voter fraud, where people actively broke the law to vote. (not what Faux calls voter fraud) If not, why even put this stupid law into place?
That is why, while your explanation is well thought out and probably true, it is completely naive and/or disingenuous. If anyone actually believed North Dakota was putting this law in place because of the problems that can arise from PO Box addresses we might be inclined to believe you. The problem is since this, as usual, is wrapped in the veil of "preventing wide spread voter fraud" even though no credible evidence has been put forth to prove such fraud exists we all know the real reason behind it. Unless you think it is just a coincidence that one party seems to do this in a bunch of states and it always seems to disproportionally block certain groups from voting who just so happen to be people who dont vote for said party.
See if North Dakota was truly doing this "for the integrity of the system" as they imply with their BS rhetoric about voter fraud, they would have also figured out a way to still get the Reservation Citizens an acceptable ID. It shouldnt be that hard to figure out a way to make it work. They didnt do that, because they dont actually care whether these people vote or not. Well that isnt true, they certainly would rather they didnt vote...but you get my point.
Now I know you are going to post some well thought out and probably very true statement as it pertains to you. I am not accusing you of being like the NDGOP. You probably do have legit reasons why this is needed and I will accept them. In ding so though I ask you to acknowledge that your reasoning is not why the laws were put in place and everyone knows it.
FYI according to heritage.org there has been 3 verifiable cases of voter fraud.
edit: There is a way to get an address:
The state government says that residents without a street ID should contact their county's 911 coordinator to sign up for a free street address and request a letter confirming that address.
Yeah that sounds like a nice efficient way to solve this problem.
At this point they should have a VRA for republican voting measures. First you have to prove your bill doesn't disproportionately impact minorities.Code:As of 9/21/10: As of 9/13/10: College Hockey 6 College Football 0 BTHC 4 WCHA FC: 1
Originally posted by SanTropezMay your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.Originally posted by bigblue_dlI don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..Originally posted by KeplerWhen the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
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Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View PostDidn't he say he had investments there during a speech?Trump in 2015: “Saudi Arabia, I get along with all of them. They buy apartments from me. They spend $40 million, $50 million. Am I supposed to dislike them? I like them very much.” https://t.co/Q6Jjo18K15
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What North Dakota Republicans did was fire a heat-seeking missile to nuke the Native American vote in their state. pic.twitter.com/lqbbQeYDbj
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Originally posted by Brenthoven View PostI don't like the idea that if I work my butt off to get more money, all of a sudden I have to pay a bigger % because I can afford to. That doesn't sit well with me. In my eyes, it actually encourages me to make juuuuusssst enough to not jump to the next tax bracket, or to find write-offs and loopholes to pay less taxes.
This is where I think professional athletes are actually some of the most deserving people in the world of the $$$ they earn in our economic system. Most came from modest means (some were well off, some were dirt poor but I have yet to see someone from a Gates or Allen or Buffet family in the ranks of MLB, the NFL or the NHL) and truly work harder than anyone most of us will ever meet to be able to sign that $50,000,000 contract.
The truth is the VAST majority of the fabulously wealthy INHERITED their money and did nothing at all to earn it. I'm not saying they don't work hard, many do. But the idea that they busted their butt more than you or I did or do is a myth. It is a lie. It is a fable. They'd be rich whether they worked hard, or worked not at all. Most poor people I know actually work harder than I do, often at two or three jobs, so their kids always have food, and a roof overhead and the lights are turned on. Granted, they pay little or no income tax, but are harmed by sales and use tax so that kind of evens out. I have no idea how old you are but I am sure of one thing: You will never work your way into a significantly higher tax bracket. I don't care if you work 60 hours a week (and are overtime eligible, unlike me) for the next 10 years. The only way it will happen is if you win one of those giant lotteries.
If most people really and truly did WORK their way to the billions of dollars each of the 1% control, I could at least understand the idea of flat taxes and other such nonsense. It just isn't true.
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