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  • Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.

    We should care.
    But given the Saudi track record we shouldn't be surprised.

    With him not being a US citizen, what are the options besides diplomatic finger-wagging? Crank on the economic sanctions? The Sauds close the oil spigot and bury the world economy. They've already made that rumbling. That's why the Sauds aren't high on my list.
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    • Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
      And apparently had 'urinated in the breakfast cereal' of this Prince (he sounds like a real prince) Salmon guy.

      Why the < bleep > would you willingly walk into that embassy knowing the monarchy of a ruthless group like the Sauds had it in for you.
      Yeah it's his fault...good Lord do you actually read the tripe you post?
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      • Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.

        Originally posted by Handyman View Post
        Yeah it's his fault...good Lord do you actually read the tripe you post?
        It's not his fault, but just the same I'm guessing you don't step out in front of speeding buses either.

        Most of the rest of the world is not a very nice place.

        To think you can cross a ruthless, blood on the hands regime (that you've shown is such) and you can then just blithely walk into their embassy as a self-exiled ex-pat to pick up some paperwork? That's naive. Journalist or not, it's naive at best.
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        • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
          He was a journalist who was applying to become a permanent resident of the US and was murdered and dismembered.

          That there's even talk of "Why should we care?" is grotesque.
          He is just asking the question...

          We should just bad people kill people indiscriminately. You know...like Neville Chamberlain did.
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          -aparch

          "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
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          • Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.

            Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
            He was a journalist who was applying to become a permanent resident of the US and was murdered and dismembered.

            That there's even talk of "Why should we care?" is grotesque.
            Barbaric middle eastern leaders and regimes have been slaughtering individuals, including US journalists, for years. The correct response from the administration should be, "We are shocked, outraged and condemn this barbaric act," and not, "it's bad, but they're spending a lot of money with us."

            On the other hand, let's not pretend like the US government has ever really done anything about the murders of guys like Daniel Pearl, et al, in the past. Sure, if we can find the guy that actually cuts the head off we're more than happy to turn him into dust with one of our drones, but it's not like we don't continue to treat the nation-states involved in whatever way we think is in our best political or financial interest.
            That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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            • Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
              It's not his fault, but just the same I'm guessing you don't step out in front of speeding buses either.
              Yeah why should a Saudi National feel safe in his own embassy...

              You would have been one of the people saying it wasn't our business who Hitler killed prior to Pearl Harbor. They aren't American so who cares amirite?

              It's cool though...let's just normalize their behavior. What have the Saudis done to us right Mr. Security?

              The fact that you were more outraged over Hillary's emails than us ignoring (and taking a bribe...err money from) the assassination of someone from the media by a terrorist nation tells us all we need to know.
              Last edited by Handyman; 10-18-2018, 04:46 PM.
              "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
              -aparch

              "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
              -INCH

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              • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                Barbaric middle eastern leaders and regimes have been slaughtering individuals, including US journalists, for years. The correct response from the administration should be, "We are shocked, outraged and condemn this barbaric act," and not, "it's bad, but they're spending a lot of money with us."

                On the other hand, let's not pretend like the US government has ever really done anything about the murders of guys like Daniel Pearl, et al, in the past. Sure, if we can find the guy that actually cuts the head off we're more than happy to turn him into dust with one of our drones, but it's not like we don't continue to treat the nation-states involved in whatever way we think is in our best political or financial interest.
                The US is in bed with thugs and have been forever. That doesn't make this ok. Every President who bowed to these murders and terrorists are accountable.

                Trump could have taken a stand and didn't. He also basically admitted what we all know... money means more than doing what is right. Probably helps they have been giving him money for decades...just like some other terrorist thugs he bends over for.
                "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                -aparch

                "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                -INCH

                Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
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                • Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.

                  He was banned from writing in Saudi Arabia after he criticized Donald Trump in 2016 after the election

                  **** going in there for a marriage license.
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                  • Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.

                    Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                    Barbaric middle eastern leaders and regimes have been slaughtering individuals, including US journalists, for years. The correct response from the administration should be, "We are shocked, outraged and condemn this barbaric act," and not, "it's bad, but they're spending a lot of money with us."

                    On the other hand, let's not pretend like the US government has ever really done anything about the murders of guys like Daniel Pearl, et al, in the past. Sure, if we can find the guy that actually cuts the head off we're more than happy to turn him into dust with one of our drones, but it's not like we don't continue to treat the nation-states involved in whatever way we think is in our best political or financial interest.
                    No, the correct response is to be strong enough in our position that it just doesn't happen in the first place. The reason you don't cede international authority is because actual nations go ahead and pull **** like this. Not many nations have had the chutzpah to go into another nation and off someone, especially a journalist so brazenly. And this administration's *Aw shucks* response has also been disgusting. They should have immediately put the arms deal on hold and investigated the murder. You know, kind of like these people. They should have strong-armed the Saudi's into allowing Turkish authorities to inspect the house of the consul general.

                    And Daniel Pearl was murdered by a terrorist organization. Khashoggi was likely murdered at the direction of the state for being a critic. I don't understand how you can even compare the two. And maybe you just conveniently forgot this.

                    The US stands up for a free and independent press. Or at least it used to.
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                    • Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.

                      Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                      No, the correct response is to be strong enough in our position that it just doesn't happen in the first place. The reason you don't cede international authority is because actual nations go ahead and pull **** like this. Not many nations have had the chutzpah to go into another nation and off someone, especially a journalist so brazenly. And this administration's *Aw shucks* response has also been disgusting. They should have immediately put the arms deal on hold and investigated the murder. You know, kind of like these people. They should have strong-armed the Saudi's into allowing Turkish authorities to inspect the house of the consul general.

                      And Daniel Pearl was murdered by a terrorist organization. Khashoggi was likely murdered at the direction of the state for being a critic. I don't understand how you can even compare the two. And maybe you just conveniently forgot this.

                      The US stands up for a free and independent press. Or at least it used to.
                      How do you do that, exactly?

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                      • Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
                        We should care.
                        But given the Saudi track record we shouldn't be surprised.
                        That we, "shouldn't be surprised" is beside the point and another deflection from the, "just asking" crowd.

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                        • Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.

                          Originally posted by burd View Post
                          How do you do that, exactly?
                          First, lead by example. Don’t cede the moral and political authority. Then when someone does step over the line, you punish them and do it by coalition. Don’t put unilateral sanctions on someone. Get the EU and other first world allies to punish the behavior. And do it consistently. Finally, don’t put money over basic tenets.

                          Freedom of the press is a pretty important standard and we’re the vanguard of that ideal. Always uphold it. Always. $100 billion seems cheap when it comes to protecting something we hold dear.

                          If a nation doesn’t just get a “we’re concerned” and instead gets a persuasive response, others won’t be so eager to follow.
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                          • Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.

                            Originally posted by Wisko McBadgerton View Post
                            If Stormy cashed the $130,000 check, I think it's very likely that Trump's missing signature is irrelevant on this type of contract, as she proceeded as though the NDA contract was indeed valid.
                            They could then just analyze it as an oral agreement supported by substantial performance.

                            I know next to nothing about the case, but does Avenatti really care that much about the ultimate outcome? I don't mean to say he is just seeking publicity for himself. If he can put trump through the process long enough and hang some stink on him, it appears he will feel he has accomplished much of what he set out to do.

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                            • Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.

                              I'd agree with that in principle, but how do you punish by coalition? Do you have a modern day example in this part of the world?

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                              • Re: POTUS 45.42: Who Needs Tax Increases? If You're Rich Just Write A Check.

                                Uh...Iran?
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