The States: At Least Michigan is Better Than Indiana

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Famous Moments in Centrist History

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Famous Moments in Centrist History

Sums up centrists quite well

[ScoobyDoo]

Famous Moments in Centrist History

Beautiful.

[The Rube]

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Beautiful.

A person has the right to say what they want in this country, but they also have to face the consequences due to what they say.

[ScoobyDoo]

A person has the right to say what they want in this country, but they also have to face the consequences due to what they say.

That's not true if you're Donald Trump.

[The Rube]

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That's not true if you're Donald Trump.

I'm hoping to see the big hammer drop, as I know you are too. /Mueller

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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Someone at WaPo today had a great take on that. He’ll resign a few mins before Pence leaves office so Pence can pardon him (unless incoming president is an R in which case that dude would pardon him)

[5mn_Major]

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Famous Moments in Centrist History

Sums up centrists quite well

Centrists don't support giving extremists a voice just because they are moderate - most centrists can't stand the KKK, Hitler, etc.

So the above is misleading. In fact, the POV implicitly disparages moderation when the country can use more of it.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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Then I think we have different definitions of a centrist. Oh well

[ScoobyDoo]

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Centrists don't support giving extremists a voice just because they are moderate - most centrists can't stand the KKK, Hitler, etc.

So the above is misleading. In fact, the POV implicitly disparages moderation when the country can use more of it.

BS

There's a big difference between being a centrist and being able to compromise. And that is being proven over and over and over again here and in Washington.

[5mn_Major]

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Often when people call themselves 'centrists' and they lend implicit support to extreme policies, they ain't centrists.

According to a post Charlottesville WP survey, 83 per cent of Americans think holding neo-Nazi views is unacceptable. The math doesn't support centrists being OK with extreme positions such as those depicted in that cartoon.

[Rover]

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Money influences all politicians, no matter the party. For better or for worse, no matter the party. To think otherwise is either being blind or foolish.

It's not (R) or (D) or (I); it's rich and non-rich.

Sure, but usually politicians at least have some minimum standards as to who they'll accept money from....until the modern day GOP came along! If Al Quada and the Taliban formed a super pac and started writing million dollar checks to the RNC, people like Itch McConnell and Paul Ryan would suddenly start advocating for their interests on Capitol Hill. There is no pride, ethics, love of country or courage amongst the members of the Republican party. To borrow a line from Wall Street, they'd sell their own mother for a campaign contribution and send her cash on delivery. Nobody, from the modern Dems to the now extinct "thoughtful conservatives" to whoever has even been this craven in their pursuit of rubbles - I mean dollars.

[ScoobyDoo]

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Sure, but usually politicians at least have some minimum standards as to who they'll accept money from....until the modern day GOP came along! If Al Quada and the Taliban formed a super pac and started writing million dollar checks to the RNC, people like Itch McConnell and Paul Ryan would suddenly start advocating for their interests on Capitol Hill. There is no pride, ethics, love of country or courage amongst the members of the Republican party. To borrow a line from Wall Street, they'd sell their own mother for a campaign contribution and send her cash on delivery. Nobody, from the modern Dems to the now extinct "thoughtful conservatives" to whoever has even been this craven in their pursuit of rubbles - I mean dollars.

Because Ayn Rand (Ronald Reagan) would do the same.

[SJHovey]

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Sure, but usually politicians at least have some minimum standards as to who they'll accept money from....until the modern day GOP came along! If Al Quada and the Taliban formed a super pac and started writing million dollar checks to the RNC, people like Itch McConnell and Paul Ryan would suddenly start advocating for their interests on Capitol Hill. There is no pride, ethics, love of country or courage amongst the members of the Republican party. To borrow a line from Wall Street, they'd sell their own mother for a campaign contribution and send her cash on delivery. Nobody, from the modern Dems to the now extinct "thoughtful conservatives" to whoever has even been this craven in their pursuit of rubbles - I mean dollars.

If only Janet Reno were still alive. She could fill that AG spot and assure everyone, again, that there's nothing to see here with respect to foreign dollars pouring into a US presidential campaign to influence the election.

[Rover]

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If only Janet Reno were still alive. She could fill that AG spot and assure everyone, again, that there's nothing to see here with respect to foreign dollars pouring into a US presidential campaign to influence the election.

Huh...I missed the part about foreign adversaries hacking into Bob Dole's campaign after a public request from Bill Clinton.

And you wonder why we all humiliate you on a daily basis out here.