POTUS 45.41: We Need More Tax Cuts to pay for the Tax Cut

[Rover]

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Is it safe to say that, in terms of policy (and not gender/age), if the Democratic Party doesn't become more like Bernie and less like Hillary they will not win anyway?

Divided vote discussion aside.

I would say no, because on policy there wasn't too much actual daylight between Bernie and Hillary. Beyond that in the near term the overriding theme of 2020 is that we're fighting Nazis, not each other.

Think of 2020 in a historical context. Upon running for re-election in 1936, FDR was facing pressure from the left for not being liberal enough. I've seen it written that Huey Long for example was going to challenge him as an independent, cost him the election and then run on a more left wing platform as a Dem in 1940. Now putting aside Long's probable overestimation of his ability to pull that off had he lived, the point is there was agitation even back then. However, by 1944 (and even 1940) I don't believe anybody was trying to take FDR out for not being liberal enough. Why? Because there was a much, much bigger problem to deal with.

Same thing is happening here. Whether or not the top tax rate should be 90% or 45% is sorta irrelevant compared to getting Chump and the treasonous money laundering cult that we call "Republicans" kicked the fuk out of office.

[ScoobyDoo]

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I would say no, because on policy there wasn't too much actual daylight between Bernie and Hillary. Beyond that in the near term the overriding theme of 2020 is that we're fighting Nazis, not each other.

Think of 2020 in a historical context. Upon running for re-election in 1936, FDR was facing pressure from the left for not being liberal enough. I've seen it written that Huey Long for example was going to challenge him as an independent, cost him the election and then run on a more left wing platform as a Dem in 1940. Now putting aside Long's probable overestimation of his ability to pull that off had he lived, the point is there was agitation even back then. However, by 1944 (and even 1940) I don't believe anybody was trying to take FDR out for not being liberal enough. Why? Because there was a much, much bigger problem to deal with.

Same thing is happening here. Whether or not the top tax rate should be 90% or 45% is sorta irrelevant compared to getting Chump and the treasonous money laundering cult that we call "Republicans" kicked the fuk out of office.

Gee. I thought the ***** who should be locked up was a Republican? In fact I heard they're all the same probably a million times.

[BassAle]

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Trump locks up second term in office

oh *****

[trixR4kids]

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i would say no, because on policy there wasn't too much actual daylight between bernie and hillary.

lmfao

[Rover]

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lmfao

I can only go by Bernie's own words at his convention speech as a guide...

[ScoobyDoo]

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lmfao

Exactly. Hillary wasn't going to do anything. Just another Republican. And the investigations that would've happened. My God, it would have been anarchy.

[trixR4kids]

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Uh what?

Exactly. Hillary wasn't going to do anything. Just another Republican.

There were plenty of legit reasons to not be inspired by her. Which isn't the same thing as saying people shouldn't have voted for her over Trump (obviously they should've).

[rufus]

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Do I dare ask where one applies such creams?

The same place his head is located.

[ScoobyDoo]

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Uh what?
There were plenty of legit reasons to not be inspired by her. Which isn't the same thing as saying people shouldn't have voted for her over Trump (obviously they should've).

I'm super pumped about the Senator from Vermont who's accomplished nearly nothing in the Senate. He gets my juices going.

[bronconick]

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Paul Manafort has agreed to cooperate with the DOJ. Prosecutor Weissmann told the judge his plea agreement is a "cooperation agreement,"

Manafort had proffered information to the government already, Weissmann said in court.

— Allie Malloy (@AlliemalCNN) September 14, 2018

Boom.

[ScoobyDoo]

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Paul Manafort has agreed to cooperate with the DOJ. Prosecutor Weissmann told the judge his plea agreement is a "cooperation agreement,"

Manafort had proffered information to the government already, Weissmann said in court.

— Allie Malloy (@AlliemalCNN) September 14, 2018

Boom.

So all those nice things Trump said were a lie? Isn't this rolling over for the bigger fish? Has Trump made that illegal yet?

[trixR4kids]

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I'm super pumped about the Senator from Vermont who's accomplished nearly nothing in the Senate. He gets my juices going.

Yeah because worker protection, helping people get healthcare, securing heat for low income families, none of that matters. Dude you don't like him I get it but stop being an idiot. Of course he's gonna run, he's probably the best shot the democrats have as he doesn't have the scandals or corporate ties that the other younger mainstream likely candidates do.

[ScoobyDoo]

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Yeah because worker protection, helping people get healthcare, securing heat for low income families, none of that matters. Dude you don't like him I get it but stop being an idiot.

Name one accomplishment? Any of that ever happened? No. Lots of people talk the talk.

[trixR4kids]

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Name one accomplishment? Any of that ever happened? No. Lots of people talk the talk.

I just did lol.

[The Sicatoka]

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I'm super pumped about the Senator from Vermont who's accomplished nearly nothing in the Senate. He gets my juices going.

Do you get a thrill going up your leg?