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  • #121
    Re: 115th Congress the final chapter: And Gerry Mander as the Speaker.

    Isn't he just an environmental activist now? And honestly nothing is gonna be enough for the right wing idiots who criticize him so whatever, they'd find some "hypocrisy" no matter what he did. "ZOMG you used paper!?"

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    • #122
      Re: 115th Congress the final chapter: And Gerry Mander as the Speaker.

      Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
      Isn't he just an environmental activist now? And honestly nothing is gonna be enough for the right wing idiots who criticize him so whatever, they'd find some "hypocrisy" no matter what he did. "ZOMG you used paper!?"
      Exactly. If the dude rode a motor scooter at one point in his life we'd be hearing about it. There's no reasoning with idiots, especially Trump Humpers.
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      • #123
        Re: 115th Congress the final chapter: And Gerry Mander as the Speaker.

        Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
        He's a politician. And for politicians, optics are everything in terms of being taken seriously by those people on the fence about your issue. If you're campaigning of Issue X, but taking actions that appear to be -X, then people are much more likely to dismiss both you and your issue. He bloodies his own nose by not flying commercial to the events he needs to attend.
        Well summed up point.

        You're correct; Gore isn't doing himself any favors and certainly not his cause. But we shouldn't be hearing any calls from the right about any behavior. In addition to the avalanche of Rover mentioned hypocrisy from the right, Obama who was pretty much driven snow was maligned beyond recognition for very little.
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        • #124
          Re: 115th Congress the final chapter: And Gerry Mander as the Speaker.

          Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
          Isn't he just an environmental activist now? And honestly nothing is gonna be enough for the right wing idiots who criticize him so whatever, they'd find some "hypocrisy" no matter what he did. "ZOMG you used paper!?"
          He's not trying to win over the Right or the Alt Right. He's trying to win over the "Mushy Middle," as pundits like to call it, in order to carry a majority of support. The current people in power are mostly lost causes when it comes to what Gore's agenda is; bringing them up in this discussion is a complete canard and derailment of what Gore needs to understand to advance his agenda.
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          • #125
            Re: 115th Congress the final chapter: And Gerry Mander as the Speaker.

            Sorry but literally anyone who cares about climate change and wants to see it change could be called a hypocrite by this logic. "Anyone who drives a car doesn't care about climate change!" etc. If he uses a private jet to get the Chinese to implement better emission standards then that's still very much a win.

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            • #126
              Re: 115th Congress the final chapter: And Gerry Mander as the Speaker.

              You're missing the point. You're trying to assess the situation through logic, not the optics of the public relations used in politics. He could have single handedly led the Japanese to invent cold fusion and solve both the world's energy and pollution crises, but he's still going to get dinged in the realm of politics if he's using what's seen as wasteful by those who do exactly what he does in their private lives. Rush Limbaugh might fly from NYC to FLA twice a week on his private A320, but if Gore is on a private G5, he's going to get blasted because flying commercial (even first class) can be spun as being more environmentally friendly.

              So again, Gore bloodies his own nose by logically doing what may be the most efficient method for the use of his time and resources, but not projecting the right public image in the process.
              "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

              "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

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              • #127
                Re: 115th Congress the final chapter: And Gerry Mander as the Speaker.

                Politicians use really dumb attack ad premises, news at 10!

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                • #128
                  Re: 115th Congress the final chapter: And Gerry Mander as the Speaker.

                  Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                  He's a politician. And for politicians, optics are everything in terms of being taken seriously by those people on the fence about your issue. If you're campaigning of Issue X, but taking actions that appear to be -X, then people are much more likely to dismiss both you and your issue. He bloodies his own nose by not flying commercial to the events he needs to attend.
                  The vast majority of the planet (a bit of hyperbole there) is not on the fence - they're in full agreement that man has a measurable impact on the climate. American neo-cons are in essence the last hold outs and they're never going to buy in. If Al Gore when off the grid completely they'd simply pivot and call him a nutbag hippie with no credibility.

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                  • #129
                    Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                    So he can't fly commercial?
                    Wish he would. Seems private jets are preferred however
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                    • #130
                      Originally posted by Rover View Post
                      I'm sorry but this doesn't seem to apply to conservatives, so why should it apply to liberals? If you're campaigning for austerity, why pass tax cuts for zillionaires? If you're campaigning against abortion, why is there a sitting member of Congress who paid for his mistress' abortion, yet is still being re-elected? If you're campaigning for morality, why support a guy on this 3rd marriage who's paying off porn stars that he step with while wife #3 in home with an infant?
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                      • #131
                        Originally posted by Rover View Post
                        I'm sorry but this doesn't seem to apply to conservatives, so why should it apply to liberals? If you're campaigning for austerity, why pass tax cuts for zillionaires? If you're campaigning against abortion, why is there a sitting member of Congress who paid for his mistress' abortion, yet is still being re-elected? If you're campaigning for morality, why support a guy on this 3rd marriage who's paying off porn stars that he step with while wife #3 in home with an infant?
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                        • #132
                          Re: 115th Congress the final chapter: And Gerry Mander as the Speaker.

                          Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                          The vast majority of the planet (a bit of hyperbole there) is not on the fence - they're in full agreement that man has a measurable impact on the climate. American neo-cons are in essence the last hold outs and they're never going to buy in. If Al Gore when off the grid completely they'd simply pivot and call him a nutbag hippie with no credibility.
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                          • #133
                            Re: 115th Congress the final chapter: And Gerry Mander as the Speaker.

                            A-W-E-S-O-M-E!

                            This guy as speaker is what the GOP is all about.

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                            • #134
                              Re: 115th Congress the final chapter: And Gerry Mander as the Speaker.

                              Originally posted by Rover View Post
                              A-W-E-S-O-M-E!

                              This guy as speaker is what the GOP is all about.

                              http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/26/ji...-announcement/
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                              • #135
                                Re: 115th Congress the final chapter: And Gerry Mander as the Speaker.

                                In the footsteps of Dennis Hastert.
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