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  • #16
    Originally posted by EastFan1 View Post
    When 5 out of the bottom 6 teams in the ECAC are non-scholarship schools like Harvard and Yale, makes you appreciate what this guy did at RIT in getting to the NCAA tournament and winning the conference tourney twice. Not to mention the D3 title.
    I have said on several occasions that he was successful at the D3 level.....mostly by selling the fact that they "are going D1 sometime soon" to recruits back then. Hey, I guess it doesn't matter how you get it done as long as you get it done, right?! As long as you win it doesn't matter what kind of coach and person you are and how you treat your team. No, none of that matters.
    Last edited by shelfit; 07-12-2018, 05:14 PM.

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    • #17
      Re: McDonald out at RIT

      Originally posted by EastFan1 View Post
      When 5 out of the bottom 6 teams in the ECAC are non-scholarship schools like Harvard and Yale, makes you appreciate what this guy did at RIT in getting to the NCAA tournament and winning the conference tourney twice. Not to mention the D3 title.
      What it mostly makes you appreciate is the sheer randomness of small sample sizes.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by joecct View Post
        Assuming full time:
        Starting: ~$50,000

        Top range ~$80,000 (????)

        Additional duties may increase those amounts.
        I remember a report last year that someone put together on D3 coaches. Houle at Plattsburgh was top of the food chain at just over $80k.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by GTOWN View Post
          I remember a report last year that someone put together on D3 coaches. Houle at Plattsburgh was top of the food chain at just over $80k.
          It is very easy to find the salaries of all New York State employees, which obviously included the men’s and women’s hockey head and assistant coaches.
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          • #20
            Re: McDonald out at RIT

            Originally posted by Still Eeyore View Post
            What it mostly makes you appreciate is the sheer randomness of small sample sizes.
            Okay, when do you think we will see 5 of the top 6 teams in the ECAC be non-scholarship teams?

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            • #21
              Re: McDonald out at RIT

              Originally posted by EastFan1 View Post
              Okay, when do you think we will see 5 of the top 6 teams in the ECAC be non-scholarship teams?
              Never since I believe all ECAC teams give scholarships.
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              • #22
                Re: McDonald out at RIT

                Originally posted by vicb View Post
                Never since I believe all ECAC teams give scholarships.
                Really????none of the Ivies give athletic or academic scholarships...(thats 6) add union for 7 non-scholarship schools out of 12....Clarkson , st Lawrence , RPI, Colgate and QPac. If i remember, colgate did not give scholarships until a few years ago....look what money can do! (also you have obviously not been reading our other thread on new coaches!)

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by MAHOCKEY FAN View Post
                  Really????none of the Ivies give athletic or academic scholarships...(thats 6) add union for 7 non-scholarship schools out of 12....Clarkson , st Lawrence , RPI, Colgate and QPac. If i remember, colgate did not give scholarships until a few years ago....look what money can do! (also you have obviously not been reading our other thread on new coaches!)
                  Does anyone know why Union doesn’t give scholarships? Are they allowed to?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by MAHOCKEY FAN View Post
                    Really????none of the Ivies give athletic or academic scholarships...(thats 6) add union for 7 non-scholarship schools out of 12....Clarkson , st Lawrence , RPI, Colgate and QPac. If i remember, colgate did not give scholarships until a few years ago....look what money can do! (also you have obviously not been reading our other thread on new coaches!)
                    Is that the word on the street?

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                    • #25
                      Re: McDonald out at RIT

                      Originally posted by MAHOCKEY FAN View Post
                      Really????none of the Ivies give athletic or academic scholarships...(thats 6) add union for 7 non-scholarship schools out of 12....Clarkson , st Lawrence , RPI, Colgate and QPac. If i remember, colgate did not give scholarships until a few years ago....look what money can do! (also you have obviously not been reading our other thread on new coaches!)
                      My bad. Forgot about the IVY no scholarships (cough, cough) And Union.

                      And yes I have been reading the other thread. My reading comprehension at age 66 is obviously lacking.
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                      • #26
                        Re: McDonald out at RIT

                        Originally posted by vicb View Post
                        My bad. Forgot about the IVY no scholarships (cough, cough) And Union.
                        Seems like things have a way of getting worked out for those with "need"...

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                        • #27
                          Re: McDonald out at RIT

                          If anyone has documentation or any specific examples of athletes getting more "need based" financial aid than non-athletes - everything else being equal - feel free to give details.
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                          • #28
                            Re: McDonald out at RIT

                            Originally posted by D2D View Post
                            If anyone has documentation or any specific examples of athletes getting more "need based" financial aid than non-athletes - everything else being equal - feel free to give details.
                            Is the "word on the street" acceptable?
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                            • #29
                              Re: McDonald out at RIT

                              Personal experience.....no help util we had 2 in college at once. On line calculators were very accurate at estimating family contribution. Ivy schools agree to match other schools if can demonstrate an interest.. Really are similar or would end in a bidding war. They also won't give you a package until Dec/Jan. Financial aid is higher then most....but cost is higher than most.
                              Last edited by MAHOCKEY FAN; 07-13-2018, 06:41 PM.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Lindsay View Post
                                Does anyone know why Union doesn’t give scholarships? Are they allowed to?
                                B) No athletic scholarships.
                                A) A while back, the President of Middlebury believed that D3 schools needed to be pure to the goals of D3. He sponsored legislation that D3 schools could not offer athletic scholarships. There was much walla walla with the heads of the affected D3 schools on either side of the issue. Clarkson was against. Union was for.

                                It came to a vote and lost, but it was also agreed that the current D3 schools that were playing up and not offering scholarships couldn't.

                                Subsequent legislation (2010-100) prohibited D3 schools from playing above their station, with the current schools grandfathered. A provision in the legislation says that if you abandon the playup, you can't playup again.
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