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  • Re: POTUS: 45.36: I Designed The Sears Tower, I Make 2 Grand An Hour

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    Is it name calling to label a fascist a fascist?

    Is it ranting to object emotionally to a despicable practice?
    Excellent questions that I think need answers.
    **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

    Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
    Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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    • Re: POTUS: 45.36: I Designed The Sears Tower, I Make 2 Grand An Hour

      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      You are thinking of this in terms of political ramification.

      That's a helluva way to judge morality.

      I think you are obfuscating because you're not actually a soulless jerk, you're just in deep denial over what your Goon Squad party is doing, even though they said all along this was The Plan. I think if you had to spend a day tending to and talking to the victims in these camps you would never cast another Republican vote as long as you lived. I do not believe you are a monster.

      But your casuistry is how real monsters get away with their actions.





      Did you think when Evil came here it would wear a tiara with the letters spelled out in diamonds? This is your time to choose. You're on the path to being a Good German. Check yourself before you wreck yourself.
      Kep, I have a world of respect for you as a poster, and I always enjoy reading your writings and links.

      But we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. We are not nazi germany of the 1930's and those of us who are not voting straight D are not the "good germans" of this era. There is a lot of bad bs going on this country, and many things we need to change. But that kind of talk is not persuading me that I need to join your camp.
      That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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      • Re: POTUS: 45.36: I Designed The Sears Tower, I Make 2 Grand An Hour

        Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
        I think I've made it pretty clear what my position has been on these detentions. It's post #90, if you're interested. I don't think these people should be detained at all, let alone separated from family members.

        But, of course, you guys wouldn't know that because you're too blinded by your rage to read or listen to what others are saying or make anything remotely close to a sensible argument.
        You say you are upset about kids being taken from their parents. Ok. And I know you've said that you want to see the borders open. Big deal- you are being critical of people being angry.

        I still don't understand how people should act in the face of their government taking kids from their parents, if I'm not supposed to be very, very angry about that. And I'm still waiting for ANY argument that remotely makes that ok. Really- is there another side to this story that we are not seeing???

        Please, point me to ANY argument that makes any sense. Anything, anywhere, that correctly justifies taking kids from their parents.

        You keep saying that many of us are blind with rage, but you've never mentioned what we are missing. Not once.

        That goes for drew too- what are missing by being so angry.

        Just answer that.

        Otherwise, the anger and rage is pretty darned justified, even if you are not.

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        • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
          Kep, I have a world of respect for you as a poster, and I always enjoy reading your writings and links.

          But we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. We are not nazi germany of the 1930's and those of us who are not voting straight D are not the "good germans" of this era. There is a lot of bad bs going on this country, and many things we need to change. But that kind of talk is not persuading me that I need to join your camp.
          I really think we’re much closer to the 1850’s than 1930’s.
          Originally posted by BobbyBrady
          Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year

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          • Re: POTUS: 45.36: I Designed The Sears Tower, I Make 2 Grand An Hour

            Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
            Kep, I have a world of respect for you as a poster, and I always enjoy reading your writings and links.

            But we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. We are not nazi germany of the 1930's and those of us who are not voting straight D are not the "good germans" of this era. There is a lot of bad bs going on this country, and many things we need to change. But that kind of talk is not persuading me that I need to join your camp.
            You keep saying things like that, in spite of what our president keeps doing.

            So on that note, it's clear that you don't think so, and will do nothing about it. So be it.

            But don't attempt to stop other people who do see the trend, and feel that they need to do something about it. That's weak.

            Especially when you've got many on the right trying to put people into crazy fear of immigrants, anyone just left of center (who are constantly being labeled socialist and the next Hugo Chaves), etc. You brush that off, but *THAT* rage got dumpy elected.
            Last edited by alfablue; 06-21-2018, 04:11 PM.

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            • Re: POTUS: 45.36: I Designed The Sears Tower, I Make 2 Grand An Hour

              Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
              Did it work for Hillary to call people deplorable?
              .

              Do you have a better name to describe people who support taking children away from their families and throwing them in internment camps?
              What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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              • Re: POTUS: 45.36: I Designed The Sears Tower, I Make 2 Grand An Hour

                Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                and those of us who are not voting straight D are not the "good germans" of this era.
                Yes, you are, cause those of us who are voting straight D on the ticket are the Jews, Socialists, trade unionists, homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses, gypsies and the others who are subject to be rounded up and sent to the "internment camps"

                If you don't speak up and make your voices heard, no one will be able to, cause our voices will be ignored.

                Again, in your opinion, where does he cross the line? What does he have to do before you'll react?
                Last edited by rufus; 06-21-2018, 04:19 PM.
                What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                • Re: POTUS: 45.36: I Designed The Sears Tower, I Make 2 Grand An Hour

                  Originally posted by rufus View Post
                  Do you have a better name to describe people who support taking children away from their families and throwing them in internment camps?
                  Think it, don't say it. Not if you want to win and stop the madness. You're not trying to win them over, but if you're looking for those people in the middle, who mostly only vaguely pay attention to politics, they're going to see vitriolic language coming from both sides and call it a toss up. If they see the vitriol being met with measured words and true logic, you have to hope that they make the rights choice.
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                  • Re: POTUS: 45.36: I Designed The Sears Tower, I Make 2 Grand An Hour

                    Yeah, that worked so well in 2016.
                    What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                    • Re: POTUS: 45.36: I Designed The Sears Tower, I Make 2 Grand An Hour

                      Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                      We are not nazi germany of the 1930's
                      Ask yourself what it would look like if it was beginning here.

                      If the Nazis bother you, then think of Mussolini. Or Pinochet. Or Franco.

                      What would it look like, at the beginning?
                      Last edited by Kepler; 06-21-2018, 04:25 PM.
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                      • Re: POTUS: 45.36: I Designed The Sears Tower, I Make 2 Grand An Hour

                        Originally posted by rufus View Post
                        Yeah, that worked so well in 2016.
                        We all prefer measured words and logic, but I'm afraid Dems will have to start going into the corners to deal with the fear mongering that has worked so well for GOPers. Solid dems don't seem to respond to that, but some of those in the neutral zone do to varying degrees.

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                        • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                          Did it work for Hillary to call people deplorable?
                          You're suggesting that alienating Trump's ardent supporters was a major reason that she lost?

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                          • Re: POTUS: 45.36: I Designed The Sears Tower, I Make 2 Grand An Hour

                            Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
                            I really think we’re much closer to the 1850’s than 1930’s.
                            Dump is too dumb to be Hitler. You're right that he's more like Napoleon III.
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                            • Re: POTUS: 45.36: I Designed The Sears Tower, I Make 2 Grand An Hour

                              Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                              Think it, don't say it.
                              "First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out..."
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                              • Re: POTUS: 45.36: I Designed The Sears Tower, I Make 2 Grand An Hour

                                Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                                Think it, don't say it. Not if you want to win and stop the madness. You're not trying to win them over, but if you're looking for those people in the middle, who mostly only vaguely pay attention to politics, they're going to see vitriolic language coming from both sides and call it a toss up. If they see the vitriol being met with measured words and true logic, you have to hope that they make the rights choice.
                                You were able to write in three lines what I intended to convey in my posts. Personally I believe this is the exact point the NYT was trying to make.
                                That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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