POTUS: 45.36: I Designed The Sears Tower, I Make 2 Grand An Hour

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: POTUS: 45.36: I Designed The Sears Tower, I Make 2 Grand An Hour

Oh, and I know I'm late to the party regarding "both side -ism" but I wanted to throw my two cents at this also.

Having "both sides," while it seems "fair and balanced" at face value causes deep problems by legitimizing erronious positions.

John Olver summed this up neatly. Ninety-seven percent of scientists agreed that climate change is real. Typical news shows, in an effort to "appear fair" would have one person from each side debate their position.

All of a sudden, something that is overwhelmingly fact is now reduced to a 50/50 crap shoot.

https://youtu.be/cjuGCJJUGsg

Correct. Because of the resident Centrist, Fox News, and now the NY Times what used to be 97-3 is now reduced to 50/50 because you have to placate the stupid, ridiculous, and insane as a "side".

Welcome to the new America. And the longer it goes on the worse we become.

[alfablue]

Re: POTUS: 45.36: I Designed The Sears Tower, I Make 2 Grand An Hour

I can’t control anything the president says or does. All I can control is what I say and do and I reject all forms of extremism, violence, and hate that have become so prevalent over the past couple of years. You and others are playing right into Russia’s hands and should be wise enough to see that. I may not agree with you and others politically but wish nothing but the best to everyone personally.

You are allowed to be upset over policy that you find objectionable.

[Drew S.]

You are allowed to be upset over policy that you find objectionable.

You can disagree with someone/something without wanting them to die or whatever.

[bronconick]

Re: POTUS: 45.36: I Designed The Sears Tower, I Make 2 Grand An Hour

So, the "very fine people" from Charlottesville last August plan to hold a new rally in DC

This will go well.

[St. Clown]

Re: POTUS: 45.36: I Designed The Sears Tower, I Make 2 Grand An Hour

One other thing to add, why are people so ok with the president and his staff outright lying to you.

For days they blamed congress and the Democrats, only to just turn the whole thing back around with the same thing that started it- an EO.

Do people like getting lied to? By the president of this country?

This can't be twisted into something else- dumpy himself even blamed congress and the democrats, only to end the policy with a stroke of a pen.

How in the world is that acceptable? Where are the apologists who think that's perfectly ok? Do the means justify the end, again?

They don't realize that they're being lied to. So many get their news only from places like Fox News, or other similar outlets, so they think what they're being told by the politicians is fact. Here's a comment from one of the more coherent guys on the article regarding the separation of children

Liberalism = A very, very nasty disease!!! Unfortunately, it`s not a cancer!!! Lets keep on MAGA!!! Go get em Donald Trump!!!

[rufus]

Re: POTUS: 45.36: I Designed The Sears Tower, I Make 2 Grand An Hour

I can’t control anything the president says or does. All I can control is what I say and do and I reject all forms of extremism, violence, and hate that have become so prevalent over the past couple of years. You and others are playing right into Russia’s hands and should be wise enough to see that. I may not agree with you and others politically but wish nothing but the best to everyone personally.

You reject all forms of violence. yet you hoard your guns for the coming day when the blacks and libruls come for you. Tell me how rejectful of hate you were when Obama was in office.

You can control what the president does. Vote to put a sane one in office. Contact your representatives to let them know how much you disapprove of what this one is doing. That is, if you disapprove of it, you really haven't made that clear yet.


Yeah, we're playing into Russia's hand by opposing a president that they hold in their back pocket. You play into their hand by meekly going along and accepting it, as he dismembers every alliance and democratic principle upon which this nation was built. All because he represents your party.

Besides your guns, is there nothing you won't fight for?

[burd]

Re: POTUS: 45.36: I Designed The Sears Tower, I Make 2 Grand An Hour

So, the "very fine people" from Charlottesville last August plan to hold a new rally in DC

This will go well.

True, but it does make a person proud that they can do this in our nation's capitol. Vile and ignorant as those vermin are.

It would be cool to see a quarter million people surround them in silence.

[rufus]

Re: POTUS: 45.36: I Designed The Sears Tower, I Make 2 Grand An Hour

You can disagree with someone/something without wanting them to die or whatever.

Vermin should die. Period.


"You can disagree with the Nazis gassing all those Jews in the camps. You don't need to wish death upon them". The world according to Drew.

[Drew S.]

You reject all forms of violence. yet you hoard your guns for the coming day when the blacks and libruls come for you. Tell me how rejectful of hate you were when Obama was in office.

You can control what the president does. Vote to put a sane one in office. Contact your representatives to let them know how much you disapprove of what this one is doing. That is, if you disapprove of it, you really haven't made that clear yet.


Yeah, we're playing into Russia's hand by opposing a president that they hold in their back pocket. You play into their hand by meekly going along and accepting it, as he dismembers every alliance and democratic principle upon which this nation was built. All because he represents your party.

Besides your guns, is there nothing you won't fight for?

I don’t own guns because I like violence, I own guns because I enjoy shooting and it is our right to do so.

Voting and contacting your representatives is great and more people should do it. I want people to be engaged and paying attention. I a million percent reject wanting to kill ice agents or kidnap Barron or anything along those lines. Those are things that people on both sides should be rejecting.

When Obama was president I tried to ignore it as best I could. I really hoped he would succeed, same as I’ve hoped for Trump. If I ever saw Obama I would shake his hand and have a chat with him. He may have different views than me on certain things, but I certainly don’t dislike him because of that.

[SJHovey]

Re: POTUS: 45.36: I Designed The Sears Tower, I Make 2 Grand An Hour

Are you really this effin' stupid? Seriously?

The NYT's writes that Trumpy says "Murderers and thieves", meaning brown people from south of the border, cause all brown people are murderers and thieves, want to "infest" our country, like the maggots and cockroaches they are, and "some" of his opponents react with rage? Like, why would they react that way? What did he say that could provoke such a reaction from them. Gee, our politics today is so uncivil.


The PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA was taking children from their parents and throwing them into concentration camps. Let that sink into your head for a minute.

THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WAS TAKING CHILDREN FROM THEIR PARENTS AND THROWING THEM INTO CONCENTRATION CAMPS!!!!!


And people shouldn't respond angrily to that? What should people get angry about?


Oh yeah, Obama coming for their guns.


BSABSVR.


And you think they need to be congratulated for writing such a steaming pile of horse****? That's the sort of both sides-ism that Brent says we need to see more of.

Dumber than a bag of hammers. Next time, think before you post anything on here.

The reason the NYT is correct is personified by this post.

You should be angry about Donald Trump and most of his policies. And you should want to do something about it.

But writing posts, tweets, letters to the editor, or in general communicating like you have in this post does not cause anyone to be persuaded to your point. In fact, it probably causes most of us to try to just quietly slip away before we get struck by the shrapnel.

Acting unhinged does not cause people to rally to your cause, and to be candid, there are many mornings when I skim through the Cafe postings and think to myself, holy s h ! t, some of these people are crazed lunatics.

[burd]

Re: POTUS: 45.36: I Designed The Sears Tower, I Make 2 Grand An Hour

I don’t own guns because I like violence, I own guns because I enjoy shooting and it is our right to do so.

Voting and contacting your representatives is great and more people should do it. I want people to be engaged and paying attention. I a million percent reject wanting to kill ice agents or kidnap Barron or anything along those lines. Those are things that people on both sides should be rejecting.

When Obama was president I tried to ignore it as best I could. I really hoped he would succeed, same as I’ve hoped for Trump. If I ever saw Obama I would shake his hand and have a chat with him. He may have different views than me on certain things, but I certainly don’t dislike him because of that.

Ignore what?

[BassAle]

Re: POTUS: 45.36: I Designed The Sears Tower, I Make 2 Grand An Hour

Ignore what?

the fact that he was a black Muslim socialist from Kenya

[Handyman]

Re: POTUS: 45.36: I Designed The Sears Tower, I Make 2 Grand An Hour

http://time.com/5318229/donald-trump..._medium=social

Time Magazine has a cover this week that's a doozy. Take a look.

That cover is going to win awards. So well done! And the article is great!

[Handyman]

Re: POTUS: 45.36: I Designed The Sears Tower, I Make 2 Grand An Hour

On Steve Schmidt. I knew this would happen.

Think about it...now McCain's campaign manager is a RINO.

Politically speaking the TrumpGOP is playing a dangerous game. It i actually similar to what the Dems are doing. You cannot have a rigorous litmus test as to who is allowed to be considered part of your Party. The more you divide yourself and ween out the "undesireables" the harder it will be to win. If Everyone Left of Ted Cruz is a RINO, and if that standard changes every time someone leaves or dares speak up against Hair Leader, you better hope Democracy dies because you are making re-election unattainable.

Which is AOK by ME

[E.J. Smith]

Re: POTUS: 45.36: I Designed The Sears Tower, I Make 2 Grand An Hour

I can’t control anything the president says or does. All I can control is what I say and do and I reject all forms of extremism, violence, and hate that have become so prevalent over the past couple of years. You and others are playing right into Russia’s hands and should be wise enough to see that. I may not agree with you and others politically but wish nothing but the best to everyone personally.

The United States is a threat to Russia.
But an even larger threat is democracy – or liberal, western civilization or whatever you want to call it.

Western civilization is defined by its institutions – representative government as a whole, a free and active press, education for all, freedom of expression, meritocracy – upward mobility, free and fair elections, the rule of law, etc.
Those are the very things Trump is attacking and dismantling.

Yes, Putin would love for us to cancel specific weapons programs or stop participating in military exercises with our allies but he’s far, far more interested in attacking the institutions that underpin all of that, upon which our entire, society, culture, way of life is based. And that’s exactly what he’s getting via his proxy, Trump.

Discord in the G7? Check
Devalued view of NATO? Check
Attack the rule of law by belittling judges and the FBI? Check
Kill confidence in the media? Fake news, check
And the big one, lack of confidence in our elections? In the value of our votes? Check
And there’s more but you get idea.

Russia has almost never been free. Monarch, tsar, dictator, autocrat, whatever you want to call it, their history is nothing but authoritarianism. Putin wants nothing more than to maintain and strengthen that. Dictatorship, state-controlled economy, oligarchy, again, whatever you want to call it, he basically wants to take civilization back 500 years, pre-Enlightenment, to when there was a king and his princes that owned and controlled everything and the serfs were happy to have a roof over their heads. But that’s difficult to do when there’s Europe and North America sitting there for the people of Russia to see and aspire to.

Putin knows he can’t defeat that directly. So he’s set out to get us to implode from within. And he’s got the perfect dupe and patsies, Drump and his collection of Orcs. And it has to be working better than he ever could have dreamed. Defeating us would make him look strong but making us look bad is so much better, now he can to say to his people, see, that’s what you want, they have it and even they don’t like it.

And the Republican Party rides shotgun on all of this just to line their pockets even beyond what they already possess.