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  • #976
    Re: 0 Days Since Last Mass Killing: Maybe It's the Person, Not the Gun...

    Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
    Don't think it will account for conceal/carry's 15% increase in violent crime...but OK.

    https://crimeresearch.org/wp-content...17_stamped.pdf
    We all have to make some concessions to move forward. Otherwise nothing will get done. I think universal checks will cut down on some C&Cs being approved, so there's a small step. I've long been an advocate for anyone who is RESPONSIBLE enough to own a gun, should be able to buy one. I'm willing to tighten up some of those rules applied, to move forward.

    I ask the same of the opposition.
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    • #977
      Re: 0 Days Since Last Mass Killing: Maybe It's the Person, Not the Gun...

      Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
      We all have to make some concessions to move forward. Otherwise nothing will get done. I think universal checks will cut down on some C&Cs being approved, so there's a small step. I've long been an advocate for anyone who is RESPONSIBLE enough to own a gun, should be able to buy one. I'm willing to tighten up some of those rules applied, to move forward.

      I ask the same of the opposition.
      Russia invaded and currently occupies Ukraine. Should Ukraine just hope to get say $5m in compensation and then be happy? Let's go back to the way it was in the 80s before everything went in the crapper...and then we can talk about what makes sense 'for the opposition'.

      A few years back, the NRA through C&C changed the purpose and reach of guns in the US - from being for occasional sportsmanship and rare home security...to culture that forces people to guns as a solution for lesser problems. Abortion is criticized as a solution for sex. Guns - accompanied by threat of accidental death - were just forced on us as a solution for peace of mind.
      Go Gophers!

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      • #978
        Re: 0 Days Since Last Mass Killing: Maybe It's the Person, Not the Gun...

        Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
        We all have to make some concessions to move forward. Otherwise nothing will get done. I think universal checks will cut down on some C&Cs being approved, so there's a small step. I've long been an advocate for anyone who is RESPONSIBLE enough to own a gun, should be able to buy one. I'm willing to tighten up some of those rules applied, to move forward.

        I ask the same of the opposition.
        Yep. I'm willing to concede that people can own guns. They need to concede that semi-autos are not part of that ownership.

        Everyone's making concessions.
        **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

        Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
        Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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        • #979
          Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
          We all have to make some concessions to move forward. Otherwise nothing will get done. I think universal checks will cut down on some C&Cs being approved, so there's a small step. I've long been an advocate for anyone who is RESPONSIBLE enough to own a gun, should be able to buy one. I'm willing to tighten up some of those rules applied, to move forward.

          I ask the same of the opposition.
          Agree with this wholeheartedly. The extremists need to get out of the way.
          Originally posted by BobbyBrady
          Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year

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          • #980
            Re: 0 Days Since Last Mass Killing: Maybe It's the Person, Not the Gun...

            Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
            The extremists need to get out of the way.
            Agreed. Get out of the way Drew.

            Fewer than one in three Americans support guns in restaurants, schools, college campuses, bars, government buildings, sports stadiums, retail stores, service locations such as barbershops and places of worship.

            https://ajph.aphapublications.org/do...PH.2017.303712
            Go Gophers!

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            • #981
              Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
              Agreed. Get out of the way Drew.

              Fewer than one in three Americans support guns in restaurants, schools, college campuses, bars, government buildings, sports stadiums, retail stores, service locations such as barbershops and places of worship.

              https://ajph.aphapublications.org/do...PH.2017.303712
              I don’t have strong feelings either way, but it doesn’t seem like gun free zones have a great track record. It might be best to leave it up to the individual institution or business.
              Originally posted by BobbyBrady
              Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year

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              • #982
                Re: 0 Days Since Last Mass Killing: Maybe It's the Person, Not the Gun...

                Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
                I don’t have strong feelings either way, but it doesn’t seem like gun free zones have a great track record.
                What percentage of locations are 'gun free'? You don't know? How can you speak to any meaningful point of view on that then.

                Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
                It might be best to leave it up to the individual institution or business.
                Based on public opinion, that's actually an extremist idea.

                At minimum, we should start with guns being illegal indoors and businesses can state 'we welcome guns'. I bet they would be kissing their business good bye.
                Go Gophers!

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                • #983
                  Re: 0 Days Since Last Mass Killing: Maybe It's the Person, Not the Gun...

                  Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                  What percentage of locations are 'gun free'? You don't know? How can you speak to any meaningful point of view on that then.



                  Based on public opinion, that's actually an extremist idea.

                  At minimum, we should start with guns being illegal indoors and businesses can state 'we welcome guns'. I bet they would be kissing their business good bye.
                  You know where gun free zones exist and have been proven to work well?

                  Other countries that have far lower death totals from guns. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

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                  • #984
                    Re: 0 Days Since Last Mass Killing: Maybe It's the Person, Not the Gun...

                    It's not safe in Ward 8 of DC.

                    @nbcwashington: A 25-year-old man was killed on Alabama Avenue SE as about 75 shots rang out. "They're crazy out here," one resident said. http://nbc4dc.com/aemlaN5
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                    • #985
                      Re: 0 Days Since Last Mass Killing: Maybe It's the Person, Not the Gun...

                      Originally posted by joecct View Post
                      It's not safe in Ward 8 of DC.

                      @nbcwashington: A 25-year-old man was killed on Alabama Avenue SE as about 75 shots rang out. "They're crazy out here," one resident said. http://nbc4dc.com/aemlaN5
                      Now imagine St. Louis - it has more than double the murder rate of DC.
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                      • #986
                        Re: 0 Days Since Last Mass Killing: Maybe It's the Person, Not the Gun...

                        Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                        Now imagine St. Louis - it has more than double the murder rate of DC.
                        Speaking of St. Louis I heard that McCaskill trying to get reelected actually sided with Trump on the Caravan. Missouri and Kansas have turned into cesspools.
                        **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                        Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                        Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                        • #987
                          Re: 0 Days Since Last Mass Killing: Maybe It's the Person, Not the Gun...

                          Originally posted by joecct View Post
                          It's not safe in Ward 8 of DC.

                          @nbcwashington: A 25-year-old man was killed on Alabama Avenue SE as about 75 shots rang out. "They're crazy out here," one resident said. http://nbc4dc.com/aemlaN5
                          The sad thing is St. Louis and DC have about the same crime rate. But St. Louis has twice the murder rate (and lax gun laws).
                          Go Gophers!

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                          • #988
                            Re: 0 Days Since Last Mass Killing: Maybe It's the Person, Not the Gun...

                            Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post

                            At minimum, we should start with guns being illegal indoors and businesses can state 'we welcome guns'. I bet they would be kissing their business good bye.
                            That's actually not a bad idea. Go the opposite of what we're doing now. Ban all guns at places of business/schools/etc unless the business/etc explicitly says they are okay with guns on their premises. Sure, the lawyers will have a BOATLOAD of fun with that one, but I would be willing to hear this one out, the details, etc.
                            Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
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                            • #989
                              Re: 0 Days Since Last Mass Killing: Maybe It's the Person, Not the Gun...

                              Shooting at a Yoga studio in Tallahassee...


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                              • #990
                                Re: 0 Days Since Last Mass Killing: Maybe It's the Person, Not the Gun...

                                IF only yoga studios weren’t gun free zones

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