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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    You don't think it's just possible that he's guilty?
    Have you ever read about any athlete or celebrity’s charitable foundation? 99 out of 100 of them are complete disasters that never have much charitable impact. I agree with Joe the AG is trying to get their name in the paper and fire up the voters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    You don't think it's just possible that he's guilty?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    Have you ever read about any athlete or celebrity’s charitable foundation? 99 out of 100 of them are complete disasters that never have much charitable impact. I agree with Joe the AG is trying to get their name in the paper and fire up the voters.
    It's a fascinating theory given that the current attorney general isn't running in the upcoming election.

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    Re: POTUS 45.35: Still Winning. Don't care if you're tired of winning.

    Quote Originally Posted by GrinCDXX View Post
    It's a fascinating theory given that the current attorney general isn't running in the upcoming weekend.
    But the key to modern conservatism is projection. It's exactly what they'd do if they could (and will do when given the opportunity) The last 18 months has shown this.
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    Re: POTUS 45.35: Still Winning. Don't care if you're tired of winning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    Have you ever read about any athlete or celebrity’s charitable foundation? 99 out of 100 of them are complete disasters that never have much charitable impact. I agree with Joe the AG is trying to get their name in the paper and fire up the voters.
    IIRC, the Clinton Foundation scored high by charitable foundation rating organizations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burd View Post
    IIRC, the Clinton Foundation scored high by charitable foundation rating organizations.
    And actually received a $100,000 donation courtesy of...

    ... The Trump Foundation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by burd View Post
    IIRC, the Clinton Foundation scored high by charitable foundation rating organizations.
    It certainly brought in plenty of revenue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    It certainly brought in plenty of revenue.
    I'm talking about the metrics they use to rate such things, such as the percentage of revenue absorbed by administration, the percentage that is used for the stated charitable purpose, etc.

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    Re: POTUS 45.35: Still Winning. Don't care if you're tired of winning.

    Quote Originally Posted by aparch View Post
    And actually received a $100,000 donation courtesy of...

    ... The Trump Foundation.
    Well there's $100K from the Trump Organization we know actually got spent on actual charity work then. Someone's head is going to roll for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burd View Post
    I'm talking about the metrics they use to rate such things, such as the percentage of revenue absorbed by administration, the percentage that is used for the stated charitable purpose, etc.
    They weren't just a pass through foundation (like the Trump's) where money in went out, they did their own in-house charitable work too. I will easily admit that a straight up accounting of the numbers definitely doesn't look good for the foundation. I mean, they're not Wounded Warrior bad, but still...


    What I wonder about the Trump "charity" is how they were able to give out more money than they took in. I thought the books had to be balanced? Unreported income to the charity?
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    Re: POTUS 45.35: Still Winning. Don't care if you're tired of winning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    It certainly brought in plenty of revenue.
    Huh, I guess that's how they helped 9 million people get lower cost AIDs medication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aparch View Post
    They weren't just a pass through foundation (like the Trump's) where money in went out, they did their own in-house charitable work too. I will easily admit that a straight up accounting of the numbers definitely doesn't look good for the foundation. I mean, they're not Wounded Warrior bad, but still...


    What I wonder about the Trump "charity" is how they were able to give out more money than they took in. I thought the books had to be balanced? Unreported income to the charity?
    You can have balanced books with a negative cash flow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by French Rage View Post
    Well there's $100K from the Trump Organization we know actually got spent on actual charity work then. Someone's head is going to roll for that.
    Yep. He didn't even get a painting, signed football helmet, or anything else in return for his donation!
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    Quote Originally Posted by St. Clown View Post
    You can have balanced books with a negative cash flow.
    Well, eventually it would need a source of financing to correct. Or just declare the charity dissolved and tell the creditors to take a hike.

    *edit* It's been 13 years since I took accounting classes, and I haven't had to think about cash flow, accounting, ledgers, write-offs, etc. since then. So I totally defer to your knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aparch View Post
    Well, eventually it would need a source of financing to correct. Or just declare the charity dissolved and tell the creditors to take a hike.
    Yes, it's all about time periods when it comes to balance sheets, cash flows, and solvency. If he had brought in $10MM in 2005, spent $8MM that same year, but only brought in $6MM in 2006, while spending the same amount, they would be at $0, but have shown ($2MM) in cash flow for 2006.
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    Re: POTUS 45.35: Still Winning. Don't care if you're tired of winning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    Have you ever read about any athlete or celebrity’s charitable foundation? 99 out of 100 of them are complete disasters that never have much charitable impact. I agree with Joe the AG is trying to get their name in the paper and fire up the voters.
    So you'd rather the AG ignore the law breaking? Given that the lawsuit is public, by who is doing it, it's pretty impossible to stay out of the press. So if you don't want to see it, the only alternate choice is to not prosecute.

    It's also funny that both of you so much buy into the distrust of government and media that dump wants you to think. Funny as in depressing. So much for the rule of law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfablue View Post
    So you'd rather the AG ignore the law breaking? Given that the lawsuit is public, by who is doing it, it's pretty impossible to stay out of the press. So if you don't want to see it, the only alternate choice is to not prosecute.

    It's also funny that both of you so much buy into the distrust of government and media that dump wants you to think. Funny as in depressing. So much for the rule of law.
    If I lived in NY I wouldn’t be thrilled about my tax dollars being used to prosecute a case like this. From what I know this is a de minimis situation and there is no need for the AG to be involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    If I lived in NY I wouldn’t be thrilled about my tax dollars being used to prosecute a case like this. From what I know this is a de minimis situation and there is no need for the AG to be involved.
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    Oh sweet merciful crap: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/fox...-sham-charity/

    “The Clintons had a brilliant money-laundering scheme in the Clinton Foundation,” Kennedy said, without ever citing any evidence that the Clinton Foundation engaged in actual money laundering. “And it’s no surprise that any other politician would want to do the exact same thing, and concentrate money and power. But now, the cat’s out of the bag. Because no mis-doing was really pinned to the Clinton Foundation formally, are they now going after the Clinton Foundation?”

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