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    Re: POTUS 45.35: Still Winning. Don't care if you're tired of winning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy A View Post
    More than anything I am anti establishment at this point in my life. Ban lobbyists, ban political media ads, have term limits. Give the government back to the people.
    How does this give government back to the people?

    Term limits take away my right to vote for somebody. A politician who actually is serving his or her constituents and working every day to live up to the oath they took is someone I would want to return to Washington or a state capital for as long as they wanted to serve. An actual, effective term limit already exists anyway. If someone performs poorly, vote them out after 2, 4 or 6 years. There's your term limit.

    Political media ads are a perfectly decent way for voters and those running for office to connect. The problem is we've allowed corporations to suddenly take on human form and have the same unlimited speech rights an individual does.

    Not every one of our 330 million citizens has the ability or means -- other than their vote -- to communicate with their representatives. I function as a lobbyist in my job on an infrequent but regular occasion. My special interests involve raising minimum wages and making sure things like public libraries and public schools are adequately funded, and the people who work in them are treated fairly. In the past I helped pass laws that ensured medical facilities used safer needles so nurses in places like state prisons didn't have to worry so much about getting stuck with a needle that was infected with HIV or hepatitis. Lobbyists in and of themselves are not the issue, it's the framework of the system in which they operate though that is horribly messed up.

    I used to consider myself as sort of an anti-establishment person as well, but I came to realize that in the absence of government it isn't the common, everyday people who rise up and control their destiny. Its the insanely wealthy and the largest corporations that fill that vacuum. It's the very reason government exists. Now we can have good government or bad government, that's true. But when we have bad government, good government is the answer, not anarchy.

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    https://twitter.com/GOPChairwoman/st...714286592?s=19

    So do you suppose we should report all crimethink and subversive acts directly to Frau Romney-McDaniel, or can some of us expect a visit from a new DHS special task force about becoming informants?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    No. My point I was making in reference to the line"If either of the Clintons had done this, you'd be peeing in your pants" was that a Clinton had done far more than this, and we Dems treated it as just doing the job he was elected to do.

    And "both sides" weren't abrogating it within months. Only one side. once Republicans got control of Congress again.


    So I guess the larger point I could be making is, you want good foreign policy deals that America will stick to, and will stand the test of time, don't put Republicans in charge of making them.
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    Awww, how cute. Trudeau's having an emo moment, and wants a trade war. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-5uU01jYmE
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    So WaPo reporting that when asked about Kim and his brutality, Donald said that he’s tough and a lot of other people have done really bad things. Does he read this board for the whataboutsim?

    Also the Walmart where the separated immigrant children are being held has a mural of dump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
    So WaPo reporting that when asked about Kim and his brutality, Donald said that he’s tough and a lot of other people have done really bad things.
    The interview where he calls Kim "tough" is gross because you can see he admires him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
    So WaPo reporting that when asked about Kim and his brutality, Donald said that he’s tough and a lot of other people have done really bad things. Does he read this board for the whataboutsim?

    Also the Walmart where the separated immigrant children are being held has a mural of dump.
    I heard his answer this morning when I was driving to work. He basically gave as good of an answer as he could. At this point it seems we’re giving them a free pass for the human rights violations if they give up the nukes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
    Also the Walmart where the separated immigrant children are being held has a mural of dump.
    The mural also has a quote from Trump's "The Art of the Deal" book: "Sometimes by losing a battle you find a new way to win the war."

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    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    https://twitter.com/GOPChairwoman/st...714286592?s=19

    So do you suppose we should report all crimethink and subversive acts directly to Frau Romney-McDaniel, or can some of us expect a visit from a new DHS special task force about becoming informants?
    To be fair, the visit would come from the FBI unless you're an immigrant or traveling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    I heard his answer this morning when I was driving to work. He basically gave as good of an answer as he could. At this point it seems we’re giving them a free pass for the human rights violations if they give up the nukes.
    Just stop. That was not the best answer one could give

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
    Just stop. That was not the best answer one could give
    No, Hair Furor gave the best answer he could without publicly saying, "I want, I want! I need, I need! When can I start doing that here?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    I heard his answer this morning when I was driving to work. He basically gave as good of an answer as he could. At this point it seems we’re giving them a free pass for the human rights violations if they give up the nukes.
    How about telling the truth and not trying to sweep it under the rug? I could think of a dozen answers better.

    And how can he give a free pass on human rights violations? Timothy A said this "deal" was going to stop them
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    Quote Originally Posted by St. Clown View Post
    No, Hair Furor gave the best answer he could without publicly saying, "I want, I want! I need, I need! When can I start doing that here?"
    Trump is definitely Veruca Salt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    How about telling the truth and not trying to sweep it under the rug? I could think of a dozen answers better.

    And how can he give a free pass on human rights violations? Timothy A said this "deal" was going to stop them
    I don't think Cheeto Benito was lying when he spoke to the press. The man contrives and misconstrues things in his head so that he can understand it, and feed his ego, that by the time he's left the meeting, he fully believes what he's relaying is the truth. At least in regards to policy. Which makes it all the more dangerous that he flat out refuses anyone other than a translator into negotiation meetings.
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    Re: POTUS 45.35: Still Winning. Don't care if you're tired of winning.

    There's a picture from the summit showing Trump saluting a North Korean military officer. Just imagine for a second the reaction from the right had that been Obama.

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    Trump is definitely Veruca Salt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrinCDXX View Post
    There's a picture from the summit showing Trump saluting a North Korean military officer. Just imagine for a second the reaction from the right had that been Obama.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aparch View Post
    I sense an election coming up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    I sense an election coming up.
    You don't think it's just possible that he's guilty?
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